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Conditions and weekend fishing report; water, water,

Postby jmdog2003 » Oct Sun 07, 2018 12:17 pm

everywhere, but still some fish to catch. I started a two week stay-at-home vacation on Friday. Truth be told, I targeted the middle of October back in April for my time off from work specifically to fish the Des Plaines river. This time of year has been my favorite time to target that river for seven or eight seasons now. But the rapidly rising water made wading that river impossible. So I started my fishing vacation on the Dupage. Before the rains, I was catching largemouth and crappie in slack water. This is the most consistent time of year for crappie for me on the Dupe.

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The low water required very light jigs and smaller grubs to stay out of the snags. Then the rain came in and radically changed the conditions. Saturday resulted in a six pack of small to medium sized smallmouth. I've found the day after rapidly rising water is when they turn on. It seems like they need a day to set themselves when flows shoot up. But Sunday was a bonanza, resulting in two dozen bass and much better size. Got a decent largemouth, much more rare in this section of the river, and smallmouth on consecutive casts off the same spot.

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Bigger and heavier presentations are required in these conditions. I had a 3/4 oz jig with a 4" BPS Speed Shad in shad.

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If you can find a pocket that is holding fish they are stacked right now. I basically bounced between three holes picking up fish in one spot until action slowed, moved to the next two to pick them clean, then returned to the first to find it recharged with biters.
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Re: Conditions and weekend fishing report; water, water,

Postby RonG » Oct Sun 07, 2018 12:20 pm

Gotta love a guy who can target and find crappies on a river system. :thumbup: :thumbup: Nice!
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Re: Conditions and weekend fishing report; water, water,

Postby jmdog2003 » Oct Sun 07, 2018 12:55 pm

Yeah, taking a page from the RonG book of fish identification, I guess these would be Dupies? At any rate I can name 3 or 4 spots that have them stacked every October.
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Re: Conditions and weekend fishing report; water, water,

Postby RonG » Oct Sun 07, 2018 1:40 pm

jmdog2003 wrote:Yeah, taking a page from the RonG book of fish identification, I guess these would be Dupies?


DRappies

FR = Fox River
DR = DuPage River
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Re: Conditions and weekend fishing report; water, water,

Postby mike son » Oct Sun 07, 2018 9:43 pm

Nice fish
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Re: Conditions and weekend fishing report; water, water,

Postby vman01 » Oct Sun 07, 2018 11:48 pm

High water honey holes on the river. I had some of my best catches during high water early in the year on the DPR.
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Postby urbanHog312 » Oct Mon 08, 2018 8:58 am

im jelly. high water always has me like :crazy: :wtf:. hopefully conditions stabilize for the rest of your staycation.
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Postby SmallieSavant » Oct Mon 08, 2018 10:14 am

lol @ Ron - DRappies. Nice report, JMDog
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Postby JB » Oct Mon 08, 2018 11:26 am

That last Smallie is a serious chunk!
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Re: Conditions and weekend fishing report; water, water,

Postby matt_ski » Oct Mon 08, 2018 4:43 pm

Good report! nice catches!
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Re: Conditions and weekend fishing report; water, water,

Postby badger75 » Oct Mon 08, 2018 8:09 pm

You sure nailed them. Well done
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Re: Conditions and weekend fishing report; water, water,

Postby Skifish1 » Oct Tue 09, 2018 6:27 am

Well well well the infamous plan a vacation to fish and weather throws you a curve ball. Good results figuring out where and how to catch them despite. :D
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Postby HEDDONFROG » Oct Tue 09, 2018 10:17 pm

Ah, I mentioned something missing in your other report and I was right!! This one has baits and tacts mentioned. 3/4OZ?! You own a bait over 1/64th?! you lie, lol jk. I honestly wouldn't have guessed needing a jig that heavy no matter how high the water was. It's cool that you've acquired the knowledge & experience to know to even bring baits that heavy with you. Great report
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Re: Conditions and weekend fishing report; water, water,

Postby DonR » Oct Thu 11, 2018 10:55 am

Great report! Great results!
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Postby Woohoodude11 » Oct Thu 11, 2018 11:02 am

DonR wrote:Great report! Great results! Please take it easy on their jaws. Thank you

Second time he called you out jm :lol:
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Postby Rambler » Oct Thu 11, 2018 1:24 pm

Skifish1 wrote:Well well well the infamous plan a vacation to fish and weather throws you a curve ball.

Yeah, how about it? I'd planned to go up to the Nicolet last week but the weather report put me off. Now I'm thinking about camping out tomorrow night closer to home. Just waiting to see what the USGS says about river levels.

Who ordered up all this crap anyway?
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Re: Conditions and weekend fishing report; water, water,

Postby jmdog2003 » Oct Thu 11, 2018 2:03 pm

Woohoodude11 wrote:
DonR wrote:Great report! Great results! Please take it easy on their jaws. Thank you


Second time he called you out jm :lol:


Which would then make this the second time I'm gonna ignore him on it 8) The jaws on those fish are in no way hyper extended.
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Postby RonG » Oct Thu 11, 2018 3:10 pm

Jaws are much tougher than most people realize.

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Postby Woohoodude11 » Oct Thu 11, 2018 5:08 pm

jmdog2003 wrote:
Woohoodude11 wrote:
DonR wrote:Great report! Great results! Please take it easy on their jaws. Thank you


Second time he called you out jm :lol:


Which would then make this the second time I'm gonna ignore him on it 8) The jaws on those fish are in no way hyper extended.

Agreed. Not like they're ultra jumbo giants or anything. I've held plenty of smaller bass that way, you can feel there's almost no torque on the jaw.
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Re: Conditions and weekend fishing report; water, water,

Postby SpecialEd » Oct Fri 12, 2018 2:56 pm

RonG wrote:
jmdog2003 wrote:Yeah, taking a page from the RonG book of fish identification, I guess these would be Dupies?


DRappies

FR = Fox River
DR = DuPage River


What would Calumet River crappies be?
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Re: Conditions and weekend fishing report; water, water,

Postby RonG » Oct Fri 12, 2018 3:21 pm

SpecialEd wrote:
RonG wrote:
jmdog2003 wrote:Yeah, taking a page from the RonG book of fish identification, I guess these would be Dupies?


DRappies

FR = Fox River
DR = DuPage River


What would Calumet River crappies be?


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Postby billebob5 » Oct Fri 12, 2018 4:04 pm

SpecialEd wrote:
RonG wrote:
jmdog2003 wrote:Yeah, taking a page from the RonG book of fish identification, I guess these would be Dupies?


DRappies

FR = Fox River
DR = DuPage River






What would Calumet River crappies be?



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Re: Conditions and weekend fishing report; water, water,

Postby Phil6 » Oct Fri 12, 2018 4:45 pm

Cumpies.... anyone?
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Postby jmdog2003 » Oct Fri 12, 2018 6:53 pm

Lol wow this one flew off the rails :shock:
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Postby HEDDONFROG » Oct Sat 13, 2018 1:51 am

jmdog2003 wrote:Lol wow this one flew off the rails :shock:


It's cold and we're bored. Go catch some fish and give us a report. I have more packing and moving to do this weekend and every weekend through the month, so I'm basically out of commission other than maybe an afternoon outing. When is your vaca over with?
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Re: Conditions and weekend fishing report; water, water,

Postby jmdog2003 » Oct Sat 13, 2018 6:47 am

I have another week and can maybe fish 4 or 5 of those days. Really hoping for a rapid drop on the Des Plaines to salvage a few days out there.
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Postby Woohoodude11 » Oct Sat 13, 2018 6:51 am

Phil6 wrote:Cumpies.... anyone?

WOW :lol:
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Re: Conditions and weekend fishing report; water, water,

Postby DonR » Oct Wed 17, 2018 4:42 pm

I suppose the real question should be...why risk It? Why not do a verticle lift if that's your only option. Of course just keeping the fish in the water or supporting it with two hands would be even better.

Im just trying to promote the safe handling of fish.
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Postby RonG » Oct Wed 17, 2018 6:54 pm

DonR wrote:I really don't think I'm calling anyone out. Im just trying to promote the safe handling of fish.

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I see a fish with it's mouth held open wide with the thumb, but the weight of the fish is upon the knuckles of the angler, not it's jaw.
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Postby Aux Pleins » Oct Wed 17, 2018 7:37 pm

I gotta wonder if DonR knows those fish were literally ripped out of moderate to fast current by their jaws. Coupled with a few holes in the jaw and possibly a poked eyeball or gill while fighting for its life. :D

No one releases more bass safely in the streams of the Southwest Burbs than JmDog, just saying..
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Re: Conditions and weekend fishing report; water, water,

Postby jmdog2003 » Oct Wed 17, 2018 7:56 pm

RonG's assessment is correct. If I tilt a fish at all, it's weight is supported on my hand somehow. And there's never enough extension to stress the jaw anyway. You can rest easy that I'm cognizant of fish positioning when I take pics DonR. Additionally, I typically have the fish unhooked with two pics snapped in 30 seconds or less. If for some reason the process is taking longer, I dunk the fish for a few seconds and sway it a bit to let it catch a breath.
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Re: Conditions and weekend fishing report; water, water,

Postby DonR » Oct Thu 18, 2018 8:12 pm

Aux Pleins wrote:I gotta wonder if DonR knows those fish were literally ripped out of moderate to fast current by their jaws. Coupled with a few holes in the jaw and possibly a poked eyeball or gill while fighting for its life. :D

No one releases more bass safely in the streams of the Southwest Burbs than JmDog, just saying..


Yup, DonR knows how the fish are caught. I've caught thousands of smallies in dozens of rivers in Illinois, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Tennessee, Arkansas, Missouri, Indiana and Ohio.

I used to lift fish on a 45 degree angle. I've heard a crunching sound. Guessing that's not good. Did some research. Found better ways to fight fish more quickly. Pinch down barbs, hold fish correctly, etc.

I think the 45 degree angle thing mostly stems from tourney guys and fishing shows. Hopefully someday the safe handling of fish will catch on with those guys as well.
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Re: Conditions and weekend fishing report; water, water,

Postby Woohoodude11 » Oct Fri 19, 2018 9:25 am

Someone posted an article on here last year about exactly what you're talking about. Using your 4 fingers and tucking them under the "chin" provides great leverage and holds the majority of the fish's weight (and seems to be a "tranquilizer" for a flopping fish :lol:) Now, when you're talking those big 5-6 lb.+ bass, their center of gravity is much lower and you're not getting the same support, which leads to unnecessary torque that results in sore or broken jaws.

Sorry for the quasi-physics lesson lol.
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