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Postby RonG » Jul Thu 06, 2017 11:09 pm

I just noticed my zillions of posted photobucket photos no longer show up in the forums. Photobucket now calls linking a photo in a forum post "3rd party hosting" and the turds want $399.99 a year RANSOM to make them come back. All the previously posted pics from almost all users are now blocked out.

There was no warning on this. I understand a move on new pics moving forward, but to do this to my 10+ years of pics on multiple sites. :evil:


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A petition:

https://www.change.org/p/photobucket-re ... party-rule

News about:

https://www.pcmag.com/news/354711/photo ... e-internet

https://petapixel.com/2017/07/01/photob ... edded-web/

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Postby Afalconsvick » Jul Fri 07, 2017 1:40 am

What a joke. Not as bad as the Illinois Income Tax hike. :twisted:
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby RonG » Jul Fri 07, 2017 4:01 am

Websites worldwide are messed up back by this and fuming mad.

http://blog.photobucket.com/status/comm ... /#comments

Lots of ebayers and their auctions are screwed up. It'll affect you too! Wait until you want to repair your vehicle or some piece of equipment and find the appropriate "how-to" forum. The text will be there, but you'll find the pics all blocked out.

They're taking a beating on Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/photobucket
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby RonG » Jul Fri 07, 2017 4:25 am

(edited. Sorry, but this post was was supposed to show my photos blocked by the photobucket ransom, but since I posted this I did a hack and found a way to make my pics appear again)

Enjoy the lovely bluegill and bass I caught just the other day:

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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby threeats407 » Jul Fri 07, 2017 7:24 am

Have used Flickr for years.
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby Rambler » Jul Fri 07, 2017 8:02 am

WTF is photobucket?
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby SmalliesNEyes » Jul Fri 07, 2017 8:36 am

Time to make the full switch over to Imgur or Flickr. I had already partially transitioned. But I'm not going back and updating all my threads/pictures through time to fix them. Oh well.
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby JasonN » Jul Fri 07, 2017 8:47 am

I honestly didn't know Photobucket was still a thing. But certainly a bummer if you've got tons of stuff on there and it all goes dark.
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby EAS » Jul Fri 07, 2017 9:18 am

$399! That sucks. For about 1/4 of that you can get your own domain name, e-mail and annual hosting account. I pay around $92/year for fishthefox.com where I host all my stuff. Been thinking about one of those slick Squarespace sites though! Leaning towards going 100% mobile.
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby Lip_Yanker » Jul Fri 07, 2017 9:35 am

Well sheet. I was going to post some items in the Trading Post this weekend, but won't be able to post the pictures since I use the bucket site.

Welp, will have to try and finger out another solution. Since I'm not tech savvy, this will be entertaining... Dammit!


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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby Rambler » Jul Fri 07, 2017 9:51 am

So I'm going to assume Photopuke is some sort of high tecky cloud thingy. I helped pioneer selling cloud-based solutions to the insurance industry. And while there are all sorts of financial reasons insurers should move their crap to the cloud (many still run mainframes - no kidding) they were reluctant mostly due to the stodginess of their management & FUD (Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt) spread by their IT people (mostly old guard old farts).

For personal use I would NEVER put my shit in the cloud. You just never know what might happen...
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby SmalliesNEyes » Jul Fri 07, 2017 11:02 am

Photobucket was an image hosting service for putting your pictures up and then being able to link to them via message boards, like pretty much everyone does with their pics in their reports. Basically as you said, it's a cloud-based hosting service for pictures. You can also use imgur.com or flickr.com for this, instead, now.
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby catchafew » Jul Fri 07, 2017 11:42 am

Ron, Right now I can pull up old posts with photobuckey pictures still showing, Idk. I wouldn't doubt it if they start charging a fees at some point.
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby FishinMatt » Jul Fri 07, 2017 12:17 pm

Weird, so far my pictures on here are still there. I have been using PB for about 15 years. To say my library is huge would be an understatement.
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby RonG » Jul Fri 07, 2017 12:25 pm

SmalliesNEyes wrote: You can also use imgur.com or flickr.com for this, instead, now.


You can't use ingur either!

http://imgur.com/tos

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If someone else might own the copyright to it, don't upload it. Don't upload gore, "hate speech" (i.e. demeaning race, gender, age, religious or sexual orientation, etc.), or material that is threatening, harassing, defamatory, or that encourages violence or crime. Don't upload illegal content such as child porn or nonconsensual ("revenge") porn. Don't hotlink to adult content or to file-sharing, gambling, torrent, warez, or Imgur rip-off sites. Don't impersonate someone else. Also, don't use Imgur to host image libraries you link to from elsewhere, content for your website, advertising, avatars, or anything else that turns us into your content delivery network. If you do – and we will be the judge – or if you do anything illegal, in addition to any other legal rights we may have, we will ban you along with the site you're hotlinking from, delete all your images, report you to the authorities if necessary, and prevent you from viewing any images hosted on Imgur.com. We mean it.
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby FishinMatt » Jul Fri 07, 2017 12:31 pm

Test pic from PB

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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby coyote » Jul Fri 07, 2017 12:36 pm

Ron noticed this the other day thought it was just me. pretty bummed as i like to look back at all the old stuff
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby RonG » Jul Fri 07, 2017 12:52 pm

FishinMatt wrote:Weird, so far my pictures on here are still there. I have been using PB for about 15 years. To say my library is huge would be an understatement.


I've got so many pics, I have 3 accounts with PB. My current account is all blocked and that goes back to around 02/2016. My old 10 year old account (that I paid a subscription for for a while) is still showing pics and I haven't checked the 3rd one yet that was for another purpose.

But if you aren't paying the $35.99/mo ($479.88 total annually) ransom or the $399.99 lump sum ransom payment they still will get you by the end of this year.

PhotoRansomers wrote:3. What users are affected by the changes to our 3rd Party Hosting
policies?

Moving forward, new and legacy free account users will NOT have third party
hosting available.

If you were a Plus Account subscriber in good standing as of June 1, 2017,
you will continue to have all the privileges you have enjoyed including 3rd
Party Hosting until December 31, 2018 as long as you maintain your
subscription.

Non Plus 500 Account subscribers that purchased after June 1, 2017 will not
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby minstrel » Jul Fri 07, 2017 12:57 pm

I'm on the Bucket (now kicked!) as well for like 10+ years, my stuff hasn't gone black yet but I've seen many things that have with the nice $399 ransom notes that they put up.
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby FishinMatt » Jul Fri 07, 2017 1:00 pm

Just read some articles. Like some of you, I have thousands of pics with them. Guess I need to look into moving them, bc PB is sure to go under with this fiasco.
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby FishinMatt » Jul Fri 07, 2017 1:03 pm

On a side note I noticed their site went from user friendly to choke full of ads and popups about a year ago. I had a very hard time navigating the site from my phone and the mobile app I had for Samsung phones would not let me upload pics or view my library anymore.
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby RonG » Jul Fri 07, 2017 2:19 pm

Yes! Some of the best fish pics ever hosted on Photobucket are still working.

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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby catchafew » Jul Fri 07, 2017 4:20 pm

^^^ funny stuff Ron, must have been before my time or to fishing sites I don't frequent.
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby RonG » Jul Fri 07, 2017 4:49 pm

Chicagolandfshing.com, a blogger named Zombie Fish. Active from 2010 to 2013ish, then was abducted by aliens or something. Poof! gone... I had to go digging about 25 pages in their forums to find those pics.

The text, fishing reports, tales were odder than the pics. (Flying local species, levitating talking fish heads, water witches, aliens, lots of radiation and mutations and generalized paranoia of the paranormal.)

I was reminded of his/her signature line:

Read the Zombie Fish Chronicles. You will learn things you thought you never knew.

Just when I think I've made sense of that and that it's pure genius, I start to doubt if it makes any kind of sense at all.
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby RonG » Jul Sun 09, 2017 1:04 am

Maybe ImageShack is the answer for now. Because of the PhotoSuckit debacle, they are offering annual photo hosting for 1/2 off ($18.99). Sure beats $399.99. No ads either. PhotoBucket has been horrible in recent years. The site is almost unnavigable with all the ads that pop up and cover the page and won't close. :evil: Also self-starting video ads that they say wont affect my upload speed. :roll: I've caught them trying to put adware and malware on my PC too. Disgusting!
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby Woohoodude11 » Jul Sun 09, 2017 11:48 am

I'm guessing this whole thing is for the more avid users of PB? I have 1% of my storage used on there (usually pretty good at deleting stuff I don't use on there). Seems like all my stuff is still up on here.
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Postby joetrain » Jul Sun 09, 2017 12:14 pm

Help an old man out here. Why would a person need to use Photobucket or any other image hosting site?
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Postby WaterGuy » Jul Sun 09, 2017 12:15 pm

Images moved and account deleted. Done and done.

On another note...I'm equal parts amused, impressed, and disturbed by those zombie fish photos. Gonna have to check out the "chronicles". Guess I've been away from CLF long enough to miss that.
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby Woohoodude11 » Jul Sun 09, 2017 1:14 pm

joetrain wrote:Help an old man out here. Why would a person need to use Photobucket or any other image hosting site?
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For when people want to directly share a picture on their posts, or in most cases our avatars.

**Edit** Photobucket doesn't require you to downsize the size or quality of an image to post it either, you can keep it at full resolution and still post to a forum without bogging down the forum's server.

Like my pet gar eating a Lee's Bait Shop minnow :-)
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby RonG » Jul Sun 09, 2017 7:04 pm

joetrain wrote:Help an old man out here. Why would a person need to use Photobucket or any other image hosting site?
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1) In the early days of most fishing forums, or forums for whatever, there was no storage on site for uploading your pics. It was too costly for the owner to have the storage and then the bandwidth for photos from many members. So you needed some place like PB to upload your photos, then embed them into your postings. Ebayers and craiglisters or others selling things use image sites for stuff they are selling. There's a bunch of ebayers now screwed with what PB just did to them.

2) Cross-sites postings. JMdog does it..I've done it. Sometimes you might put the same fishing report on 2 or 3 sites. It's easier to use a image site, upload those pics once, embed the links once, then cut and paste the completed report text from one site to another. I've done 10 or more pics per report. Imagine uploading all those pics separately onto 2 or 3 sites, then inserting all the links separately to make your report. :shock:

3) There's another Chi area site that won't let you use imaging sites. You only have the option of uploading your pics onto that site if you want to use pics. Sorry, but my pics are MY pics and not the property of some fishing site. I've had a site or two mess with me unfairly. If they are going to screw with me, I reserve the right to pack up my toys (pics) and go home with them. A long time ago, I posted some reports of me and my kids fishing. The wifey had a different idea about putting up the kids pics on the www, with all the weirdos out there, and asked me to remove them. Kind of hard to do when some forum now controls them.

Maybe you put up some pics that give away a spot and you realize it was a mistake to post them and want to alter or delete them. Unless, you control the pics by having them on your own image site account, you might be stuck.

4) I've seen a few Chicago fishing sites fold up. It would be better to have your pics on an image site (and your own hard drive) than to have them fold up with the defunct site.

5) Easy library-ing and access. I'm always resurrecting old pics and posting if appropriate to a current discussion.

Woohoodude11 wrote:Like my pet gar eating a Lee's Bait Shop minnow :-)
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Cool pic! But it's a proven fact that 4 out of 5 gars prefer 'gar-lick' bread over minnows.

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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby RonG » Jul Wed 12, 2017 10:57 am

Well, PhotoSuckit caught on and the hack I applied to make my blocked pics appear is not working after only a few days. I guess they are 100% committed to angering and alienating their long-time members.

I just read that a lot of Amazon sellers just got screwed. They were all excited for their big Amazon Prime Day Sale and lost all the pics for their ads thanks to what PB did (again, without any prior warning) :evil:
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby Rooger » Jul Thu 13, 2017 4:41 pm

So what's the answer? It's been a while since I posted pics and when I did, I used snapfish (I know, old school, but it worked). It was so easy to just find the url in the pic properties and link it to a post on WCF. I just tried and I guess they've gone the same route. Is the only solution to pay for a hosting site?
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby RonG » Jul Thu 13, 2017 6:41 pm

Rooger wrote: Is the only solution to pay for a hosting site?


Probably. If everyone fleeing from PB goes to the remaining free sites, it's likely they will be eventually forced to do the same.

I'm still leaning towards ImageShack. Because of the PB crap, they are offering an annual at 1/2 off, $18.99. Unlimited storage. Unlimited bandwidth. Linking to forums and other places. I'd probably use it for ebay too so it sounds like a good deal. The site is so peaceful compared to PB with pop up ads and videos covering your entire screen, popping up faster than you can close them. (some deliberately made not to close when you click on the X)
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Postby Rambler » Jul Fri 14, 2017 6:53 am

Rooger wrote:So what's the answer?

How's about the old school approach? Upload your digital pics to your PC. Edit them & post them to whatever you want. No fees. No risk. Permanent library of your stuff.

I'm so paranoid I have an off-line backup external drive that I update regularly. That way if my PC gets infected the chance of my off-line thing getting it are minimal.
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Postby Lip_Yanker » Jul Sun 16, 2017 9:07 am

Rambler wrote:
Rooger wrote:So what's the answer?

How's about the old school approach? Upload your digital pics to your PC. Edit them & post them to whatever you want. No fees. No risk. Permanent library of your stuff.

I'm so paranoid I have an off-line backup external drive that I update regularly. That way if my PC gets infected the chance of my off-line thing getting it are minimal.


Does this work on WCF? I thought you couldn't upload direct from a PC or flash drive/card to the site?

Will have to do some testing now I suppose.


ETA- It does work uploading direct from a flash/ sd card. Added pictures to my "Rods & Reels" thread in the Trading Post.
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby RonG » Jul Sun 16, 2017 9:22 am

Lip_Yanker wrote:
Rambler wrote:
Rooger wrote:So what's the answer?

How's about the old school approach? Upload your digital pics to your PC. Edit them & post them to whatever you want. No fees. No risk. Permanent library of your stuff.

I'm so paranoid I have an off-line backup external drive that I update regularly. That way if my PC gets infected the chance of my off-line thing getting it are minimal.


Does this work on WCF? I thought you couldn't upload direct from a PC or flash drive/card to the site?



You can now and I know it's been available for awhile, probably not from the beginning of WCF. Just click on the "Upload attachment" button just below the box you are typing your post message into.

Well, I just finished downloading my 4000+ pics from my 3 PB accounts. What a beast! There were so many separate albums that had to be downloaded individually off the slow PB site. All the while playing whack-a-mole with the nonstop pop up ads that cover up your screen. I guess I'm lucky...I've been reading of many who have been unable to download their pics there.

I'm done. Photo Bucket you now can go out of business now. Even if you change your ways because of the backlash, your members hate and no longer have any trust in you. :thumbdown: :thumbdown:
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby minstrel » Jul Sun 16, 2017 12:42 pm

Agreed there Ron... they finally got around to me so I was downloading all my folders too and their process takes forrrreeeevvvverrrr! What a load of crap that place has become. I've never seen such invasive ads. Ads on top of adds, ads that hijack your screen while you are trying to do anything and that half the time don't dissappear! :evil: I'm glad to be done with that place now.

Talk about shooting a machine gun into your feet... I mean they could have gone with a different approach and still been rolling in money, as people would have paid to let their old photos live. A 'grandfather' account for a one time $14.95 payment would been a world of difference. But instead they go for the all or nothing with people fleeing their $399.99 ransom. It's unbelievable someone approved this was the way to go. What a nightmare.
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Postby Lip_Yanker » Aug Wed 02, 2017 8:53 am

Welp, they finally caught up to me. Probably due to my last name beginning with W, just like me and Duane Z. back in high school, last in line for everything. lol Anyway, just got my official e-mail from photo slut that my account is now disabled for turd party hosting. I like so many others, will not be upgrading my membership.

Wonder if I can apply for a disabled parking permit now like my Dad has?


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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby Rambler » Aug Wed 02, 2017 10:21 am

Have to say (again) the cloud sucks for this sort of stuff. Much better off keeping your shots on an external drive & uploading them to sites when needed. Not as convenient but cheaper (certified by the AACB) and safer.
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Postby Lip_Yanker » Aug Wed 02, 2017 11:48 am

Never tried it, but does fleabay let you upload pictures direct from a camera/card?

I've got a few things I'd like to list, but won't if I can't upload pictures direct. Maybe will give it a try and see if it works.


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Postby Rambler » Aug Wed 02, 2017 1:08 pm

Not sure about directly from a camera. I use a 12 Mp Canon & move shots from it to my PC. Uploading from my PC is easy & never a problem.
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Postby RonG » Aug Wed 02, 2017 1:36 pm

Rambler wrote:Not sure about directly from a camera. I use a 12 Mp Canon & move shots from it to my PC. Uploading from my PC is easy & never a problem.


Exactly that. You can upload from your phone because just like everyone else these days, ebay has an app for that.

My complaint about Photobucket is that on ebay you can't host pics there to insert into the text of your listing, only upload the ones that show up at the top of your listing in the multiple photos. You need some online photo hosting to insert photos into the body of your text and PB has now screwed that up for zillions of folks that used them for that, including myself.
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby Scipio24 » Sep Wed 13, 2017 8:13 am

Revitalizing this thread a little...When I need to host pictures, I found this German site where you can host pictures with no account.

http://picr.de/

It's all in German, but pretty easy to figure out (plus Google Translate or similar if stumped). I've used it for years and never had a problem. Good if you want to post a quick picture or two...not the right approach if you're looking for an album where you can keep upload, online as you can't really go back and search for your uploads.
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby SmalliesNEyes » Sep Wed 13, 2017 8:33 am

I'm using Flickr or Imgur nowadays. Great sites, if anyone was looking for one.
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby RonG » Mar Wed 07, 2018 2:37 am

I was sorting thru 4000+ old emails and filing or deleting tonight, and found one from Photobucket tonight that they sent about a month ago. I knew they'd suffer with that $400 a year price to host pics your could post on forums. They gave me a 7 day window to sign up for that option for $99/year.

Too late. I'm done with Photobucket. I hope everyone else is. They must suffer and pay for their treachery.
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby SpecialEd » Mar Wed 07, 2018 9:47 am

I just upload all my pics to my Facebook account.

There are privacy settings so you can make the images seen only to you, only to friends, or public... With the ease of use and it's popularity, I don't think FB will ever go away.

Free hosting too.
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby Phil6 » Mar Wed 07, 2018 11:10 am

Every week I come across forums threads that were ruined by this selfish business move. So many DIYs are gone forever. Hate that this happened
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby SmalliesNEyes » Mar Wed 07, 2018 11:13 am

Yep. Photobucket can fuck off.
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby RonG » Oct Fri 05, 2018 12:03 pm

I noticed another member is hosting new pics on PB, so I guessed they must have some new plan options and, yes, they do. I took a peek at them the other day and went back this a.m. to possibly sign up and it appears photobucket has vanished for all of today. Maybe they are finally toast? Or have been hacked?
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Re: $399.99 a year /fishing forums will suffer (and already

Postby DasGoby » Oct Fri 05, 2018 12:07 pm

Given the way they've treated people. Why would anyone trust them again? Even if it looks like the best deal, I would pass.
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