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Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Aug Mon 28, 2017 3:19 pm
by Lip_Yanker
Well, let's see... Waiting for October 5th at 7:30pm for something worthwhile to watch.

Go Black Hawks!


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Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Aug Mon 28, 2017 4:07 pm
by threeats407
By Sunday I am footballed out from watching College games. I was getting tired of the often rehearsed pro antics awhile back and last year tipped it in.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Sat 09, 2017 12:54 pm
by Brett
24 hour until the Bears 2017 season begins, and a lot has changed since last year. The team is improved but our schedule is brutal (especially the first half of the year), and we are young and lack experience, especially at criitical positions like QB. I think we have the potential to surpirise people this year with our wins and losses, but more important than the record this year will how they deal with the challenges in front of them and develop as players.

QBs) I was an advocate of dumping Cutler and taking a two pronged approach to replacing him. Specifically I suggested Trading for Jimmy Garapolo and drafting a QB in the mid rounds. We signed Mike Glennon and traded up a spot to take Mitch trubisky 2nd overall and I prefer this to my own suggestion at this point. Glennon didn't look great in the pre-season but the pre-sason can be misleading, especially for evaluating a player that's starting spot isn't in question. He may bomb, he may surprise people, his deal is structured so we can dump him after this year at minimal cost of he sucks, but keep him on or trade him if he performs well. Trubisky looks promising, seems like a lot fo people who were groaning when we drafted him are on the bandwagon now. Still to early to tell IMO, and I hope we can continue to develop him slowly over the course of the year (please don't break our giraffe).

RBs) Jordan Howard was a bright spot last year, coming in 2nd behind fellow rookie Ezekiel Elliot despite not playing much until week 5 and running behind an offensive line that doesn't have 3 All Pros like Dallas. If he can avoid the sophomore slump and continue that kind of production and staty healthy we should be in good shape here. We added Tarik Cohen in the draft this year and he had a phenomenal pre-season. He is a tiny, fast, agile Darren Sproles type of back who is hard to stop in open space and is a perfect compliment to Howard's vertical smashmouth style. Expect this kid to play a bigger role in the offense than many anticipate. Depth wise we have Benny Cunningham and Taquan Mizzell who aren't too shabby themselves. Last year's opening day starter Jeremy Langford and fellow veteran Kadeem Carey have both been released if you want to know how much the backfield has improved this off season.

WRs) Cam Meredith is out for the year. Kevin White has fractured both legs and played 4 games in two seasons. The rest of our receivers room is cast offs from other teams and guys Ryan Pace poached from Rent-A-Center. Is what it is. At a high level there two types of pssing games in the NFL. Those that rely on elite receivers to make plays, and those that rely on play-calling and schemes to get more averge receivers open. Dowell Loggains professes to run the latter type of offense so let's hope he can make it work. A strong run game should help keep defenders in the box and open up some play action opportunities, and of course we will also feature heavy use of the...

TEs) We brought in Dion Simms and drafted Adam Shaheen to add to incumbents Zack Miller and Daniel Brown. Sims has been a strong blocking TE but they say his receining game is ready to take a step forward. Shaheen is a huge, athletic, former basketball player who was a phenomonal receiver in college and is working on developing a blocking game. He looked very raw in the pre-season catching the ball though at the NFL level. Miller is an established force when healthy (which is a big question mark with him), and Brown is a converted receiver who hopefully continues to improve. Lots of potental here but also question marks accross the board. One thing I can tell you is you will see a lot of these guys. Get ready for 2 and even 3 tight end sets this year as we focus on the power game and ompensate for the lack of wide outs.

OL) Same group as last year, although Kyle Long is hurt and will likely miss time to begin the year. Cody Whitehair should slide over to guard and Hroniss Grasu will play center for now. This group was a strength last year, lets hope they can continue to be and stay healthy, as our depth here is a little thin, especially after losing veteran backup Eric Kush for the year.

DL) Last year I said Hicks, Goldman, and Bullard had the potential to be among the best in the NFL. Hicks played fantastic, Goldman got hurt, and Bullard flat out sucked. This year I'm doubling down. Bullard added about 20 lbs of muscle and looked dominant in the pre-season. Hopefully Goldman can stay healthy. Keep an eye on one of my personal favorites Roy Robertson-Harris. Signed as an UDFA outside linebacker last year, they have been converting him to DE pretty much ever since. If you want to see a huge man do thing way more athletic than he ought to be able to check out his college tape on youtube. He had back to back sacks and blocked a punt thi preseason, and I think he will emerge as a very effective player who can strengthen the rotation and help keep the other guys fresh. The D line will be fun to watch ths year if they are healthy.

LBs) Very excited for Leonard Floyd's sophomore campaign. He flashed greatness last year and Like Bullard, bulked up considerably this off season. It's very possible he establishes himself as an elite NFL pass rusher this year. Willie young and Pernell McPhee round out the OLBs. Both are very solid, experienced veterans, although McPhee (McKnee) is alway an injury risk. Should be a solid group if they are healthy. Look for Pace to add young talent here next year though. Inside linebackers are a similar story, Freeman was phenomenal last year, Trevathan is good but coming off a major injury. Kwiatkowski is hard hitting young guy with potential. Only issue with him is he is more of an up and down, rushing hit type of ILB in a system that asks ILBs to take a lot of coverage responsibility as the OLBs are functioning like defensive ends. That said he is very capable in the right situations and plays for a defensive coordinator who knows when and how to deploy him. Our linebacker group has a high ceiling and rounds out what should be along with the defensive lineman a top 10 front seven in the NFL this year. Maybe better.

DBs) All new starters. Quentin Demps has more picks than anyone in the league for the past few years and brings sorely needed veteran leadership to a young group. Eddie Jackson was a stud at Alabama who broke his leg and fell into the mid rounds in this years draft. Played at a nearly NFL caliber school for a legendary coach who happens to specialize in defensive backs. I'm excited about this. Cooper and Amukamara are upgrades at CB but not exclamation points. Our defensive coordinator would tell you himself he doesn't need elite CBs though. Bryce Callahan and Kyle Fuller are the nickelback and depth. Still hopeful Fuller can make soething of himself but frankly I'm not betting a dime on it. The backfield looks to be the weakest element of the defense and we play against a lot of big name receivers early on this year. Like our wide receivers, lets hope that scheming and playcalling can squeeze the maximum potential out of this group. Hopefully Demps and Jackson can improve on last years record low turnover output.

Go Bears!

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Sat 09, 2017 4:30 pm
by J.W.
Wow, that's a pretty comprehensive analysis Brett. I think the Bears will surprise people on defense, but the offense may be hard to get into. I suspect it's an 8-8 season. I think Trubisky will turn out to be a serviceable QB, maybe better than average, but only if the Bears have the talent to develop him that way. Still not a fan of how the whole thing went down, but that's been discussed on this board and in the media ad nauseum, so I just hope he pans out for our sake. I don't foresee Fox being coach next year, but I'm pretty interested to see how Loggains runs the offense this year, as I actually see flashes of good things from him. I really don't think the Bears will play Trubisky at all, unless Glennon gets hurt, and I'm still confused as to why Sanchez is taking up a roster spot if he's not the number 2. Maybe if the season goes better than originally thought, and Trubisky really steps it up, he may start, but if the O line doesn't look great and it 's a throwaway season after week 5, I don't think the Bears would risk hurting him. Just my thoughts, but I feel like even though the team isn't great, it does feel like at least they're headed in a direction; whether good or bad remains to be seen.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Sat 09, 2017 4:58 pm
by Brett
Very reasonable. One thing I think is the offense doesn't have to be great for the team to win. Suffocate them with the D and control time of possession with the power run game and dink and dunk playaction is how we are built. Good fit for Glennon and why we are carrying 4 tight ends and a fullback.

We just signed Hicks to a 4 year extension btw.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Sun 10, 2017 7:49 am
by Woohoodude11
Brett wrote:Suffocate them with the D


Not gonna make a joke.
Not gonna make a joke.
Not gonna make a joke.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Sun 10, 2017 10:56 am
by Rich D
I'm actually hoping the Bears stick to their guns. let Glennon struggle, and sit the kid for as long as possible.

Great analysis, Brett!

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Sun 10, 2017 12:25 pm
by coyote
Same worst Wideouts in the Nfl, i wish i was 22 again i would put these guys to shame.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Sun 10, 2017 3:18 pm
by Brett
Well that was a tough loss to watch, but lets looks at the positive:

- Game went right down to the wire and we came within 6 yards of beating the reigning NFC champs.
- Glennon was clutch and led us down field when he needed to.
- Tarik Cohen had quite the coming out party.

A loss is first and foremost a loss but I think we surprised a lot of people and if we continue to play like that we are back to being a team to be taken seriously and have a bright future in front of us.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Sun 10, 2017 3:33 pm
by J.W.
Totally agree Brett. What a game, and I am pretty impressed. Overall, I feel like the Bears played a pretty tight game with very few mental mistakes -- although the ones they did make, Atlanta made them pay, as expected. The O line and the secondary were the weak points, but even then, they played well enough to beat a lot of teams -- hell, it could be argued they even played better than Atlanta did, even they they lost, as it was a couple big plays that got Atlanta their points, whereas the Bears chipped away with long drives the whole game. Overall, should be a fun season, as this is a different Bears team.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Sun 10, 2017 5:34 pm
by Brett
coyote wrote:i wish I was 22 again I would put these guys to shame


Kevin White out for the year again. 3rd time in 3 years. Coyote if you can stomach the navy and orange we might be able to get you out there yet.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Sun 10, 2017 5:57 pm
by coyote
Brett, i want to like them, but i really cant take them seriously with a lot of the stuff Management does. Sorry to hear about White thats too bad , but i think its time to move on from him he just has that damm injury bug that strikes. certain guys.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Mon 11, 2017 2:25 am
by FishinMatt
Made an easy hundo betting my coworker they would not score from first and goal from the five. Bad teams find ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory :wink:

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Mon 11, 2017 11:59 am
by coyote
Matt you a Football know it all!

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Mon 11, 2017 12:41 pm
by FishinMatt
coyote wrote:Matt you a Football know it all!
Only the Bears. They make me lots of money :wink:

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Mon 11, 2017 12:55 pm
by Brett
Bellamy was held.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Mon 11, 2017 1:48 pm
by SmalliesNEyes
Brett wrote:Bellamy was held.
Brett wrote:Bellamy was held.


Yeah, should have been a holding or PI penalty, honestly.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Mon 11, 2017 5:33 pm
by J.W.
That whole last series at the goal line was a hard pill to swallow. Any one of the first three plays should have been six, but that's football.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Tue 12, 2017 4:45 pm
by ffishman
If, and that is a big "if" the Bears get some breaks this year, I think they have the making of a very good team. They need the ball to bounce their way.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Tue 12, 2017 5:01 pm
by Brett
We just lost Jerrell Freeman for the year to a pec injury. Defensive captain and our leading tackler last year despite playing only 12 games. Also was pro Football Focus top ranked linebacker in the NFL. No hiding it, this one hurts. Hopefully Nick Kwiatkoski can step up, and I expect Fangio will get a little creative and we will see more of Leonard Floyd in coverage than we did last year. He played all over the field in college and I think he can make an impact at the pro level outside of just rushing the quarterback.

Injuries are getting out control in the NFL, and especially the Bears.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Mon 18, 2017 3:41 pm
by Lip_Yanker
Yup, pre season for the Black Hawks starts tomorrow at 6:00pm. Woooot!


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Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Mon 18, 2017 5:15 pm
by Rambler
Number of games watched so far = 0
Number of games missed = 0

This is the worst excuse for a professional sports franchise in history. Used to be the Blackhawks but then Bill Wirtz did everyone the favor of dying. Maybe the McKaskeys could move to FL & get blown away by a hurricane. Then we might get a chance at a decent football team.

Go Cubbies!!!

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Tue 19, 2017 4:37 pm
by Woohoodude11
Rambler wrote:Bill Wirtz did everyone the favor of dying.

Dying laughing :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Rocky Wirtz not only changed the Blackhawks, from people I knew that worked for Wirtz Beverage they say that even THERE things have gone great. Bill was just a miserable man I guess.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Tue 19, 2017 5:07 pm
by FishinMatt
Classic Bears. They will win a couple games, but overall, still stink.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Tue 19, 2017 6:27 pm
by Woohoodude11
FishinMatt wrote:Classic Bears. They will win a couple games, but overall, still stink.

They'll lose a lot of games and at the end of the season ruin their chances at the #1 pick by winning out.

I did mention how ridiculous it'll be after the year they traded the farm for a 1 spot upgrade this year if they get the #1 pick in a deep QB draft class this season.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Tue 19, 2017 7:23 pm
by Rich D
I agree, Rambler.

As long as we have the McKaskeys (children born into wealth) unfortunately we will have this crap.

Think any one of them ever played a down of football, much less spent an afternoon outdoors?

How the *(&^ can they know anything?

Gonna be a while...

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Tue 19, 2017 8:03 pm
by Rambler
When Ed McKaskey married Virginia Halas Papa made him team Treasurer. Then whenever they were going to discuss finances at a board meeting Papa would throw Ed out of the meeting & tell everyone "That's the dumbest son of a bitch I've ever known".

What elese do you need to know?

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Tue 19, 2017 9:07 pm
by Rich D
George Hallas breathed fire.

His progeny....

Not so much.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Wed 20, 2017 6:50 am
by mack
McKaskey?

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Wed 20, 2017 8:55 pm
by Bassin' Ted
Lip_Yanker wrote:Yup, pre season for the Black Hawks starts tomorrow at 6:00pm. Woooot!

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Yeap, Yeap. I watched more of Tuesday's exhibition Hawks game than all my NFL viewing this year combined. Love the NHL.

Gotta be tough to be a Bears fan right now. Not only is the team brutal but you have to listen to the insufferable John Fox.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Wed 20, 2017 9:18 pm
by Brett
Always the optimist here but it was only one bad half. Cohen made a dumb rookie mistake. Glennon choked against his old team which wasn't impressive. It killed our momentum, football is a momentum game. Half of Chicago sound like Jay Mariotti now. If we bend over for the Packers in two weeks I'll change my tune.

The injuries on the other hand are killing me...

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Wed 20, 2017 9:57 pm
by SmalliesNEyes
Bassin' Ted wrote:
Lip_Yanker wrote:Yup, pre season for the Black Hawks starts tomorrow at 6:00pm. Woooot!

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Love the NHL.



As someone who played the game his whole life, and is a diehard hockey fan, I approve this message. Best sport in the world.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Sun 24, 2017 1:45 pm
by Rambler
Just made the mistake of flipping from the Cubs to Bears & saw that moron hotdogging on the 1 yard line.

For the record, Tom Landry would have cut that idiot immediately after the game - maybe even at halftime.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Sun 24, 2017 1:47 pm
by jmdog2003
Embarrassing isn't a strong enough word. The Bears as an organization are a joke.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Sun 24, 2017 1:48 pm
by minstrel
Step 1: Get INTO the endzone
Step 2: Then and ONLY then can you celebrate.

Unreal. Enjoy your "popularity" as the latest 'viral video'

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Sun 24, 2017 3:24 pm
by Brett
Not so fast boys, just beat the Steelers...

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Sun 24, 2017 3:56 pm
by coyote
Steelers put too much thought about what they were gonna do for the Anthem no excuse to lose to a inferior team as the Bears mite be the only time in history a Team won a game with 1 catch to a Wideout they are a joke. And agree Rambler that dumbass would have been cut back in the day, but thats todays Athelete only care about showing off care less about the Team.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Sun 24, 2017 7:07 pm
by Brett
We nearly beat the reigning NFC champs, we just beat the AFC runners up. Sure we look ugly in certain facets of the game but this is not last years team. Our defense is establishing itself by hanging in there with the leagues best offenses. Our run game is starting to look ferocious, I think the return of Kyle Long helped today and will continue. Josh Sitton is yet to return as well. Lets not forget this team is being built on defense and running the ball. Between Glennon and the receivers its hard to tell who is worse, but the pass game is already on life support and unless Glennon can turn it around soon here he is looking more like the 1 year band aid everyone thnks he is. I still like giving Trubisky time to develop but if Glennon can't stake a claim to next year I think we should get the kid some time towards the end of the year. Packers won in OT today as well, looking forward to Thursday night. And someone needs to slap Marcus Cooper, twice.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Mon 25, 2017 7:05 am
by Rambler
Yes they won. But that idiot should be cut TODAY! If Fox wants to instill anything resembling excellence in this team he'd call that dope out & cut his ass in public.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Mon 25, 2017 6:54 pm
by Flipper999
Brett pretty much summed up my feelings too. I just wonder why Trubisky is not getting playing time. I am sure he can hand off 40 times and throw 10 short passes as well as Glennon does.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Thu 28, 2017 7:52 pm
by Brett
Glennon fumbles the first play against Green Bay......I guess if my neck was 2 feet long I'd choke a lot too.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Thu 28, 2017 8:16 pm
by Flipper999
This is awful

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Thu 28, 2017 8:24 pm
by Brett
Going by this lightning storm God is clearly a Bears fan.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Fri 29, 2017 7:25 am
by Rambler
Hah! Watched the boring Cubs game instead. Sooo much better! My wife's happy I'm not watching the Bores. Poor her, she was a football widow for years.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Fri 29, 2017 8:20 am
by SmalliesNEyes
I really wish they'd bench Glennon and get Trubisky in there. Their defense actually would make them competitive with a reliable QB in there playing. I'm pretty sure Glennon actually owns 80% of Bears turnovers that they've lost this season... He has 5 interceptions and 3 fumbles lost, I believe. The Bears as a team have 5 interceptions... and 5 fumbles lost. :lol: Get this giraffe looking asshole out of there already...

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Fri 29, 2017 10:36 am
by Brett
SmalliesNEyes wrote:I really wish they'd bench Glennon and get Trubisky in there. Their defense actually would make them competitive with a reliable QB in there playing. I'm pretty sure Glennon actually owns 80% of Bears turnovers that they've lost this season... He has 5 interceptions and 3 fumbles lost, I believe. The Bears as a team have 5 interceptions... and 5 fumbles lost. :lol: Get this giraffe looking asshole out of there already...


With 10 days until the next one it might be an opportunity to get him prepared and let him play, but I would guess they will figure the national stage of Monday Night Football is to much for his first appearance.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Fri 29, 2017 10:56 am
by Lip_Yanker
Stellar. Outstanding. Fantastic. Superb. All nothing you'll hear a bears fans use in describing their play this season so far. My friend, who has bled blue and orange for 50+ years even said he was so frustrated that he's done watching the rest of this season after last night.

Wooooot! Go Pack go!

Me? I sat out on the deck and watched the stars while smoking a great cigar last night. Was a much better show.


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Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Fri 29, 2017 3:38 pm
by J.W.
I think the Bears have a lot of issues besides QB, but if Trubisky is "the guy" of the future, as they marketed him and gave up so much for, then what the hell is the holdup?? At first, they talked about Glennon as if the entire season was about getting Glennon developed, which makes no sense. Then they spoke about Trubisky by making excuses for Glennon's play, and then saying that Trubisky won't start until he's ready. . . which also makes no sense. He's the top-drafted QB for F's sake!! What in the hell could sitting on the sidelines watching Glennon do for his development or "readiness?" I feel like the only hope the Bears have left to keep fans interested this year is to put Trubisky in, as the season is already a wash. Any first round qb better be damn well ready to go in there and do at least as well as Glennon has been, and Glennon is obviously not going to get better. That dude is a statue in the pocket, and must be near-sighted as hell.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Sat 30, 2017 5:11 am
by Kamala
The Bears lack impact playmakers on both sides of the ball. 3 years of Ryan Pace filling the roster. He and the staff are terrible. Over 25 years of horrible football. The return of the Abe Gibron era.

Re: Bears thread

PostPosted: Sep Sat 30, 2017 11:59 am
by Rambler
Kamala wrote:The Bears lack impact playmakers on both sides of the ball. 3 years of Ryan Pace filling the roster. He and the staff are terrible. Over 25 years of horrible football. The return of the Abe Gibron era.


Stop it - you're killing me! :D