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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby SmalliesNEyes » Jun Mon 01, 2020 10:19 am

joetrain wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_weapon

Maybe something like this could be deployed. Not so many years ago in Chicago there was some protest going on and I think the CPD had these weapons out there.
What do I know though. My biggest disturbance last night was some cows mooing in a nearby field.
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Pretty sure they've been using the sound cannons actually.
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby RonG » Jun Mon 01, 2020 10:28 am

joetrain wrote: My biggest disturbance last night was some cows mooing in a nearby field.


Similar here. I took the garbage out last night and the only sounds were an occasional car and I couldn't believe how loud the bullfrogs in the pond were.

Been hit hard by the looters, though. I had to chase a raccoon away who was trying to break into my garbage can around sunset. Scraggly little creep, not the usual fatty who likes hiding under my kayak. A chipmunk has been stealing the concrete from my sidewalk that leads up to my back stoop. He chewed a 2x4" hole right in the corner of the sidewalk. When I saw he was out and about eating maple helicopters, I mixed up some concrete and filled up the door to his home under my home. But yesterday he was back trying to bypass my patch. Lastly, the kleptomaniac looter woodpecker woke me again this morning as he is slowly flying off with one of my maple trees. :thumbdown:
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby RonG » Jun Mon 01, 2020 10:33 am

joetrain wrote:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonic_weapon

Maybe something like this could be deployed.


I'd prefer they use the microwave cannon on those stealing microwave ovens from Walmart and Best Buy.

https://www.rt.com/news/weapon-us-microwave-cannon-363/


Ultimately, I would like to see in use the air/fuel bomb. (aka the "Flyswatter of God")
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby badger75 » Jun Sun 07, 2020 3:03 pm

I bet old man Daley wises he had one back in '68
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby Aux Pleins » Jul Tue 28, 2020 9:10 pm

A recent John Hopkins study:

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I work in Wisconsin, so now I'm not sure if I should work 1 day and go home and quarantine for 14days before going back to work for another day. Don't know if the boss will let that one fly. This covid protocol is awful confusing.

In all seriousness, hopefully everyone is doing well. My sons tball getting canceled was a heartbreaker, but totally understandable. Sure survivability is really high for the virus, but now studies are showing that 1 in 4 can recieve permanent heart, lung, or brain damage. Precautions are definitely necessary. Sometimes I feel like a teenager digging in my center console for a rubber every time I pull up to the store when looking for a fresh mask to wear. Yea it sux, but with an ugly mug like mine, the face masks aren't such a bad thing.

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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby Rambler » Jul Wed 29, 2020 8:36 am

Johns Hopkins? WTF do academics know about pandemics? All they do is confuse things by spreading facts. :shock:
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby Grain » Jul Wed 29, 2020 9:17 am

Rambler wrote:Johns Hopkins? WTF do academics know about pandemics? All they do is confuse things by spreading facts. :shock:

There's a classic cartoon about that.

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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby FloridaRigger » Jul Thu 30, 2020 9:29 pm

Aux Pleins wrote:A recent John Hopkins study:

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uh oh, Heddon is going to have to remake his republican vs democrat states chart. He was right though, it is political. Don't wear masks and your state's cases grow exponentially
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby Brett » Jul Fri 31, 2020 7:09 am

Tons of people have been infected with COVID and it was never detected. We barely had the ability to test when the virus first came out. The increase on that chart is an artifact of our newfound ability to actually test people.
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby SmalliesNEyes » Jul Fri 31, 2020 2:47 pm

Brett wrote:Tons of people have been infected with COVID and it was never detected. We barely had the ability to test when the virus first came out. The increase on that chart is an artifact of our newfound ability to actually test people.


Sorry Brett, but this is 100% false.

Why are those increases being seen in some places and not others then? Why are New York, Chicago, and other very large metro areas still dropping, or just small increases being seen, and other states are spiraling out of control? Why do those states happen to be the same ones that refused to shut down as early as the ones doing better, and reopened far sooner, had less restrictions, and also have refused to institute any kind of mask mandate?

As you'll notice, I didn't bring anything political into this. This is simply a science and facts post. The increase in those states has absolutely nothing to do with increased testing. That's made up BS.
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby Brett » Jul Fri 31, 2020 6:02 pm

I don't think our points are mutually exclusive. The virus does tend to concentrate in different geographic areas at different points in time and our ability to test changed over time. If it was in Texas and Florida first and then New York and Illinois you'd see the same pattern with lower levels in Texas and Florida. I don't see Oregon on there with all the drama in Portland. Not to say there aren't other other factors at play. But testing capacity is a known one. As are inconsistencies in how a COVID positive is defined and counted from place to place.
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby Brett » Jul Fri 31, 2020 6:07 pm

I guess what someone should look at is death rate as a percentage of infection rate over time. If it significantly decreases over time that would support what I'm saying. I'm going to shut up and spark some medication now.
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby RonG » Nov Wed 18, 2020 12:19 pm

Wow, hard to believe this thread went dark for a whole 5 months. Probably everyone is sick of 25 minutes of each 30 minute newscast being about covid.

Yesterday, we found out the first death of someone we knew that died this week from C19. We have 2 friends who had it and recovered. One with cancer, so that was extra good news. And my wife's cousin and his family are battling it and recovering. I got really sick a few months ago and was tested. The test was negative.
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby joetrain » Nov Wed 18, 2020 12:31 pm

People are corona’d out. I’m guessing that the majority of the population want to get back to a life they consider to be normal.
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby Rambler » Nov Wed 18, 2020 12:47 pm

joetrain wrote:I’m guessing that the majority of the population want to get back to a life they consider to be normal.

Good luck with that. This is a test of the maturity of the American people.

By 1943 most Americans were "wared" out but managed to see things through. If we had the current population of pissers & moaners back then Hitler would've won & we'd all be talking German.

I'm hoping I don't get COVID but I'm already sick of all the fucking whining about it. Ignore it & it's likely to kill you or somebody you love.
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby oldsalt » Nov Wed 18, 2020 1:42 pm

Agreed
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby FishinMatt » Nov Wed 18, 2020 1:43 pm

There is a fine line about being stupid about things, and going about your normal life. People driving by themselves wearing masks in the car......stupid. People partying and carrying on like Covid does not exist......stupid. Unfortunately (like anything in these idiotic days of social media) you have 2 extreme sides making all the noise.
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby bobberwatcher » Nov Wed 18, 2020 3:25 pm

I think folks driving in their car wearing masks simply forgot that they're still wearing it. I've done it. :oops: my daughter recently finished isolating (tested positive) stressfull time. We were super careful in the spring, let our guard down over the summer. Time to be cautious again.
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby joetrain » Nov Wed 18, 2020 4:06 pm

I’m pretty much back to normal. I don’t really go anywhere but to the store or fishing. If the store I go to requires a mask then I wear it.
If I wear a mask fishing it’s to keep the sun off of my face.
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby KankRat » Nov Wed 18, 2020 4:43 pm

bobberwatcher wrote:I think folks driving in their car wearing masks simply forgot that they're still wearing it. I've done it. :oops: my daughter recently finished isolating (tested positive) stressfull time. We were super careful in the spring, let our guard down over the summer. Time to be cautious again.


I know several people that got it. Most had mild symptoms, 1 spent about a week in the hospital and 2 my age, with diabetes, mid 50's. They spent MONTHS in the hospital as in 3 and 4 months, both on a ventilator and both in induced coma for a period. they both lived to tell about and both are still using a walker today. Imagine the bill.
The guy that spent a week in the hospital feels like he has lost a lot of his sense of smell and he has been having issues with memory. He is in his 40's.

Most people probably forget to take it off. I forget all the time since I wear one 40 hours plus a week indoors, it almost feels weird to have it off.
If someone just feels more comfortable with it on, maybe protecting someone who may drive the car later more power to them. It doesn't harm anyone.
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby bobberwatcher » Nov Wed 18, 2020 7:59 pm

Kankrat- so you had it too? I think that if I ever needed to be hospitalized with it, I'd consider myself a gonner. It's a good reminder to hear that's not always the case and that even those on a ventilator can walk away from it. And the bill- well, 1 night/day in UIC goes for $34,000 so I can't even imagine months!
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby KankRat » Nov Thu 19, 2020 6:51 am

bobberwatcher wrote:Kankrat- so you had it too? I think that if I ever needed to be hospitalized with it, I'd consider myself a gonner. It's a good reminder to hear that's not always the case and that even those on a ventilator can walk away from it. And the bill- well, 1 night/day in UIC goes for $34,000 so I can't even imagine months!

No I have been lucky, I did not get it. I've been working straight thru it. I am an essential worker. We make products for printing food packaging and pharmaceuticals. Those supply chains cant be disrupted.
Those are people I know mostly through work. Yes but one of those guys that was hospitolized told me he was pretty much preparing to die. he has a wife and two kids. He was really grateful to be alive after walker and all. He also told me that he is in total disbelief that the mask thing is being politicized.
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby joetrain » Nov Thu 19, 2020 7:33 am

“he is in total disbelief that the mask thing is being politicized.”

He might be in total disbelief but like it or not in today’s culture everything is politicized.

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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby coyote » Nov Thu 19, 2020 8:11 am

I work 6 Days a Week in the Grocery Store , i most certainly respect the Virus but im damm sure living my life and not letting this take over my Life Live your Life !
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby KankRat » Nov Thu 19, 2020 8:20 am

coyote wrote:Live your Life !

what does that mean specifically?
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby bobberwatcher » Nov Thu 19, 2020 9:17 am

Uh oh.....I hear there's perch in the harbors....
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby RonG » Nov Thu 19, 2020 9:22 am

bobberwatcher wrote:Uh oh.....I hear there's perch in the harbors....


But will the 'maskless in public' Lori Lightfart let me extract them? Yeah, those Lightfoots are really something. Both Lori and Gordon Lightfoot have such a long history of being big-time womanizers.
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby KankRat » Nov Thu 19, 2020 9:39 am

I contacted a colleague a former coworker whose is from Italy, and at the time C19 was raging there. I knew her parents were still there. This is the actual copied and pated conversation.

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Hey- how are you? Is your family okay?
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Hey, I try to keep courage and have care of myself and dad. My mom passed away Sunday for the virus, It is heartbreaking
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That is awful. So sorry to hear that.
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It is Mark. We couldn’t say Goodbye to mom
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You must be totally heartbroken. I lost both of my parents to cancer. I know how rough it is, but not to be thousands of miles away and totally powerless. 2020 is a nightmare.
HER
It is a kind of painful that we can understand only when we lose a parent.
I was ready that it could happen not able to come back on time but my dad is living close to the hospital but nobody can go inside. Mom took the virus in the nursing home like it happens in (city in Chicago Suburbs)
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby Aux Pleins » Nov Thu 19, 2020 10:04 am

I tested positive November 11th. Some light flu symptoms for a few days so I went and tested. I did have that loss of sense of smell and taste. Feel better now and need to get another test done with negative results to return to work. Wife never got it and we never did the quarantine thing. The kids had a cold at the beginning of the month so possibly they had it.
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby billebob5 » Nov Thu 19, 2020 10:48 am

Aux Pleins wrote:I tested positive November 11th. Some light flu symptoms for a few days so I went and tested. I did have that loss of sense of smell and taste. Feel better now and need to get another test done with negative results to return to work. Wife never got it and we never did the quarantine thing. The kids had a cold at the beginning of the month so possibly they had it.


I've heard there's no point in retesting because you will test positive for months even if you're not contagious any longer. At least that is the protocols for the people I've known to have it in DuPage County. Same symptoms as you - very mild. Doctors did not want to retest, period. I get that your employer may feel differently than the medical professionals.
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby KankRat » Nov Thu 19, 2020 10:53 am

Aux Pleins wrote:I tested positive November 11th. Some light flu symptoms for a few days so I went and tested. I did have that loss of sense of smell and taste. Feel better now and need to get another test done with negative results to return to work. Wife never got it and we never did the quarantine thing. The kids had a cold at the beginning of the month so possibly they had it.

A buddy of mine got symptoms. Mid 30's good physical condition. Immediately got his wife and kids out of the house, stayed with family that already had it. Got tested and was positive. Rode the virus out, with mid grade symptoms severe cough, fatigue and fever. He recovered and wanted to donate plasma he and his wife both had antibodies after getting tested . She was asymptomatic. Both of them were off the charts careful about contracting it in the first place.
that's what is crazy. The range and severity of symptoms. Thankfully it does not seem to be mutating into something worse.
Holy cow, imagine the country getting hit with something even more deadly.
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby RonG » Nov Thu 19, 2020 11:05 am

HER wrote:Mom took the virus in the nursing home like it happens in (city in Chicago Suburbs)


I heard from a customer of mine yesterday, that in Wauconda, they are currently moving Covid-sick folks out of a local hospital into a nursing home full of non-sick residents there. :shock:
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby KankRat » Nov Thu 19, 2020 11:30 am

RonG wrote:
HER wrote:Mom took the virus in the nursing home like it happens in (city in Chicago Suburbs)


I heard from a customer of mine yesterday, that in Wauconda, they are currently moving Covid-sick folks out of a local hospital into a nursing home full of non-sick residents there. :shock:


Hopefully I am wrong, but by January I think its going to get ugly.
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby SmalliesNEyes » Nov Thu 19, 2020 12:04 pm

It's only going to get worse, people. Too many people just don't give a shit about it in this country, now. Truly a sad state of affairs in this country. Good luck to you all and stay healthy/safe. We're hoping we don't lose my Dad to it at some point, since he was diagnosed with cancer about 6 weeks ago.
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby Rambler » Nov Thu 19, 2020 1:11 pm

KankRat wrote:Aux Pleins wrote:
I tested positive November 11th. Some light flu symptoms for a few days so I went and tested. I did have that loss of sense of smell and taste. Feel better now and need to get another test done with negative results to return to work. Wife never got it and we never did the quarantine thing. The kids had a cold at the beginning of the month so possibly they had it.

A buddy of mine got symptoms. Mid 30's good physical condition. Immediately got his wife and kids out of the house, stayed with family that already had it. Got tested and was positive. Rode the virus out, with mid grade symptoms severe cough, fatigue and fever. He recovered and wanted to donate plasma he and his wife both had antibodies after getting tested . She was asymptomatic. Both of them were off the charts careful about contracting it in the first place.
that's what is crazy. The range and severity of symptoms. Thankfully it does not seem to be mutating into something worse.
Holy cow, imagine the country getting hit with something even more deadly.

My bet is that they'll figure out that there's a genetic component to how it effects individuals - as there is in most things.

Some people smoke for years & never get lung cancer. Some smoke for a short time & get it. My doctor tells me he has patients with much better numbers than me & are losing sight & toes to diabetes. He says the only thing he can find wrong with me is that I'm diabetic (and getting old).

There's also a small number of people who are immune to HIV. They can get the virus but it has no effect. I read somewhere that they are of Northern European decent & have ancestors who survived the black plague.

So if you're lucky (like Aux) & have mild symptoms or unlucky & it kills you might well depend on your ancestry.
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby FishinMatt » Nov Thu 19, 2020 3:18 pm

At this point I have known several people who have had the virus. Thankfully, they were all asymptomatic or had relatively mild cases. There really is no right answer. Our school district gave people the right to choose between in-person and remote learning. Teachers had the option of being on or off-site. A very small minority still screamed and hollered that we were murdering the children. I cannot fathom the crap our school board went through when making these decisions. We are again all remote, waiting to see how this latest surge plays out. There really are no right or wrong answers unless one wants to take the extreme side on every position. People are hurting, whether it is from the virus or crippled economy. Some of the shit I have seen from domestic violence, depression, and suicide this last year has been awful. No one wants to talk about that though. As always, society leaves it to police to quietly clean up the messes and expect us to go home every night pretending we did not see a guys head splattered on the floor. It is fucked up anyway you want to look at it, which is why I still live my life while taking some common sense precautions. You want me to wear a mask in the store....fine. I need to wear a mask at work....fine. You tell me I can shop at Costco or any other big market store, but can't go fishing or take a walk in the park....fuck off. On the same hand, if someone wants to stay completely locked down to protect a love one. I respect that as well.
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby matt_ski » Nov Thu 19, 2020 3:49 pm

FishinMatt wrote:At this point I have known several people who have had the virus. Thankfully, they were all asymptomatic or had relatively mild cases. There really is no right answer. Our school district gave people the right to choose between in-person and remote learning. Teachers had the option of being on or off-site. A very small minority still screamed and hollered that we were murdering the children. I cannot fathom the crap our school board went through when making these decisions. We are again all remote, waiting to see how this latest surge plays out. There really are no right or wrong answers unless one wants to take the extreme side on every position. People are hurting, whether it is from the virus or crippled economy. Some of the shit I have seen from domestic violence, depression, and suicide this last year has been awful. No one wants to talk about that though. As always, society leaves it to police to quietly clean up the messes and expect us to go home every night pretending we did not see a guys head splattered on the floor. It is fucked up anyway you want to look at it, which is why I still live my life while taking some common sense precautions. You want me to wear a mask in the store....fine. I need to wear a mask at work....fine. You tell me I can shop at Costco or any other big market store, but can't go fishing or take a walk in the park....fuck off. On the same hand, if someone wants to stay completely locked down to protect a love one. I respect that as well.


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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby KankRat » Nov Thu 19, 2020 6:15 pm

Rambler wrote:
KankRat wrote:Aux Pleins wrote:
I tested positive November 11th. Some light flu symptoms for a few days so I went and tested. I did have that loss of sense of smell and taste. Feel better now and need to get another test done with negative results to return to work. Wife never got it and we never did the quarantine thing. The kids had a cold at the beginning of the month so possibly they had it.

A buddy of mine got symptoms. Mid 30's good physical condition. Immediately got his wife and kids out of the house, stayed with family that already had it. Got tested and was positive. Rode the virus out, with mid grade symptoms severe cough, fatigue and fever. He recovered and wanted to donate plasma he and his wife both had antibodies after getting tested . She was asymptomatic. Both of them were off the charts careful about contracting it in the first place.
that's what is crazy. The range and severity of symptoms. Thankfully it does not seem to be mutating into something worse.
Holy cow, imagine the country getting hit with something even more deadly.

My bet is that they'll figure out that there's a genetic component to how it effects individuals - as there is in most things.

Some people smoke for years & never get lung cancer. Some smoke for a short time & get it. My doctor tells me he has patients with much better numbers than me & are losing sight & toes to diabetes. He says the only thing he can find wrong with me is that I'm diabetic (and getting old).

There's also a small number of people who are immune to HIV. They can get the virus but it has no effect. I read somewhere that they are of Northern European decent & have ancestors who survived the black plague.

So if you're lucky (like Aux) & have mild symptoms or unlucky & it kills you might well depend on your ancestry.


right now, being old is your greatest crime. The % of deaths is way, way WAY higher as you get into the 70's and up. Just think about this, if the health care system gets overwhelmed and it's a choice between a geezer, who's done it all right and taken all the right precautions still got sick.... and a 30 something, who's been "livin' his life"? Both of you need a ventilator, but there is one ventilator.... guess who goes in the refrigerated truck parked outside? How is that for fair? Doesn't the injustice of it all just piss you off to no end?
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby KankRat » Nov Thu 19, 2020 6:32 pm

Rambler wrote:
KankRat wrote:Aux Pleins wrote:
I tested positive November 11th. Some light flu symptoms for a few days so I went and tested. I did have that loss of sense of smell and taste. Feel better now and need to get another test done with negative results to return to work. Wife never got it and we never did the quarantine thing. The kids had a cold at the beginning of the month so possibly they had it.

A buddy of mine got symptoms. Mid 30's good physical condition. Immediately got his wife and kids out of the house, stayed with family that already had it. Got tested and was positive. Rode the virus out, with mid grade symptoms severe cough, fatigue and fever. He recovered and wanted to donate plasma he and his wife both had antibodies after getting tested . She was asymptomatic. Both of them were off the charts careful about contracting it in the first place.
that's what is crazy. The range and severity of symptoms. Thankfully it does not seem to be mutating into something worse.
Holy cow, imagine the country getting hit with something even more deadly.

My bet is that they'll figure out that there's a genetic component to how it effects individuals - as there is in most things.

Some people smoke for years & never get lung cancer. Some smoke for a short time & get it. My doctor tells me he has patients with much better numbers than me & are losing sight & toes to diabetes. He says the only thing he can find wrong with me is that I'm diabetic (and getting old).

There's also a small number of people who are immune to HIV. They can get the virus but it has no effect. I read somewhere that they are of Northern European decent & have ancestors who survived the black plague.

So if you're lucky (like Aux) & have mild symptoms or unlucky & it kills you might well depend on your ancestry.


That is very well possible and probable.
I've also read speculation that initial viral load you are infected with is the difference between being asymptomatic and not.
Why outside or any highly ventilated area is safer because the virus containing booger/ spit particles are dispersed. Why masks are effective at preventing the spread.
I can't find the article, but a read a pretty cool thing about receptors in your nose where these things attach and some people have less of them.
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby KankRat » Nov Thu 19, 2020 6:39 pm

SmalliesNEyes wrote:It's only going to get worse, people. Too many people just don't give a shit about it in this country, now. Truly a sad state of affairs in this country. Good luck to you all and stay healthy/safe. We're hoping we don't lose my Dad to it at some point, since he was diagnosed with cancer about 6 weeks ago.

Stay positive about your Dad.
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Postby KankRat » Nov Thu 19, 2020 7:33 pm

FishinMatt wrote:At this point I have known several people who have had the virus. Thankfully, they were all asymptomatic or had relatively mild cases. There really is no right answer. Our school district gave people the right to choose between in-person and remote learning. Teachers had the option of being on or off-site. A very small minority still screamed and hollered that we were murdering the children. I cannot fathom the crap our school board went through when making these decisions. We are again all remote, waiting to see how this latest surge plays out. There really are no right or wrong answers unless one wants to take the extreme side on every position. People are hurting, whether it is from the virus or crippled economy. Some of the shit I have seen from domestic violence, depression, and suicide this last year has been awful. No one wants to talk about that though. As always, society leaves it to police to quietly clean up the messes and expect us to go home every night pretending we did not see a guys head splattered on the floor. It is fucked up anyway you want to look at it, which is why I still live my life while taking some common sense precautions. You want me to wear a mask in the store....fine. I need to wear a mask at work....fine. You tell me I can shop at Costco or any other big market store, but can't go fishing or take a walk in the park....fuck off. On the same hand, if someone wants to stay completely locked down to protect a love one. I respect that as well.


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FishinMatt wrote:At this point I have known several people who have had the virus. Thankfully, they were all asymptomatic or had relatively mild cases. There really is no right answer. Our school district gave people the right to choose between in-person and remote learning. Teachers had the option of being on or off-site. A very small minority still screamed and hollered that we were murdering the children. I cannot fathom the crap our school board went through when making these decisions. We are again all remote, waiting to see how this latest surge plays out. There really are no right or wrong answers unless one wants to take the extreme side on every position. People are hurting, whether it is from the virus or crippled economy. Some of the shit I have seen from domestic violence, depression, and suicide this last year has been awful. No one wants to talk about that though. As always, society leaves it to police to quietly clean up the messes and expect us to go home every night pretending we did not see a guys head splattered on the floor. It is fucked up anyway you want to look at it, which is why I still live my life while taking some common sense precautions. You want me to wear a mask in the store....fine. I need to wear a mask at work....fine. You tell me I can shop at Costco or any other big market store, but can't go fishing or take a walk in the park....fuck off. On the same hand, if someone wants to stay completely locked down to protect a love one. I respect that as well.


Well said.


Well said to who or what?

I'm not sure what propaganda stream you subscribe to, but mine is WBEZ and they talk about suicide, domestic violence, stress, PTSD related to the C19 all the time. It is a thing, a huge thing.


You want me to wear a mask in the store....fine. Given that you are private property and they say come in here...if you wear a mask and you actually grace them by obligiing! Good job!


I need to wear a mask at work....fine. PLEASE know that... Everytime your glasses fog up, this inhumane treatment will never go unrecognized and nor will your service to insure the safety of your co-workers and their families and possibly the general public, thank you so much for enduring that trauma, and if you don't mind pull it over your nose so it isn't totally meaningless. Don't forget, Jesus will love you for not killing all the old and sick people

You tell me I can shop at Costco or any other big market store, but can't go fishing or take a walk in the park....fuck off. Well, I'm am not sure who is stopping you from these endeavors as wherever I go nobody is being stopped from outdoor recreation

On the same hand, if someone wants to stay completely locked down to protect a love one. I respect that as well. Thanks, that's so good of you.
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Postby FishinMatt » Nov Thu 19, 2020 9:05 pm

KR, He was agreeing with my opinion of things. You on the other hand, not so much it seems. I would say I respect that, but when you make it a personal attack, I lose interest quickly. Arguing on the internet is about useful as you driving alone wearing a mask in your Prius. I did somewhat enjoy the sarcasm though.
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby bobberwatcher » Nov Thu 19, 2020 10:54 pm

Excuse me but I just need to respond to RonG's comment about Lori Lightfart real quick- Ron, haven't you heard that we are to be supportive of their lifestyle because, well, because they said so. Apparently they have every right to force acceptance of it on everyone. Someone should've put locks on those closets a long time ago. No one asked them to come out. K, I'm done. Going to focus on "extracting" some fish somewhere :lol:
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby RonG » Nov Thu 19, 2020 11:50 pm

Great thread!

As a kid, I didn't care that much for Gordon Lightfoot because I thought he sang weird. Now I have appreciation for most anything with talent and have a great ear for quality as there is not much out there anymore with new and current artists. Gordon is an exceptional song crafter. Believe it or not, I do like Billie Eyelash a bit. Her new 007 theme song is pretty good. The movie release has been delayed for a year now due to Covid and theatre shutdowns and was supposed to be the flick to bail out the flailing industry, at least the studio that made it. Rumor is it may go straight to Netflix and Apple and skip the theatres. :shock:

Lightfart is rather useless and hypocritical getting her beautiful hair done in violation of her own covid lockdown rules saying she had to "because she is the face of Chicago." Seriously, her hairdo is plagiarized from this guy

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and could have cut it herself. I laugh when I think of the day of her bringing in a photo of Redd Foxx to her stylist and telling her that's what she wants. Probably blew a gasket when she found out the beard trim would double the tab.

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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby bobberwatcher » Nov Fri 20, 2020 12:41 am

Yep, same hair! Good call. As for Gordon Lightfoot- I think he did wreck of the fitzgerald (or something like that) I like that one, not the others. Heard of the Ellie person but not real familiar.
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Postby RonG » Nov Fri 20, 2020 7:05 am

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This scene from yesterday's press conference was enough to cause mass Hysteria. They're calling him Ghoulini again. :shock: I guess he was sweating like Rosie O'Donnell does when she frantically struggles to get the lid off a gallon pail of ice cream causing his hair dye to run down his face. :lol: Alice Cooper should hire him and Lori to be in his freak show concerts. Ah, the face of Chicago and the face of New York City.
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Postby KankRat » Nov Fri 20, 2020 8:20 am

FishinMatt wrote:KR, He was agreeing with my opinion of things. You on the other hand, not so much it seems. I would say I respect that, but when you make it a personal attack, I lose interest quickly. Arguing on the internet is about useful as you driving alone wearing a mask in your Prius. I did somewhat enjoy the sarcasm though.


If you re-read that I am pretty much agreeing with everything you said. I am being snarky about the tone in which you say it. with regard to the Prius. You must be a mind reader because may be my next car.
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby KankRat » Nov Fri 20, 2020 8:54 am

RonG wrote:Great thread!

As a kid, I didn't care that much for Gordon Lightfoot Probably blew a gasket when she found out the beard trim would double the tab.

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Gordon Lightfoot is awesome. Have probably three of his albums on vinyl.
Billie Eilish not exactly my cup of tea, but definatly interesting for pop music today. i'm a little suprised that she made it so big.

Lori Lightfoot- Apart from the haircut thing- BAD political move, but I listened to her and JB's press conferences every single day during the heat of the pandemic. Not sure if it was the fact that they could speak in complete, COHERENT sentences and had a vocabulary larger than a dumb 11 year old, but it was actually rather calming to hear them coordinating and actually doing their jobs. It's like...the state and local government working together...freaking amazing.
Both JB and her consistant message in a crisis and well handled. Nobody wanted to close down bars and restaurants. Those are tough things to do.
We spent most of the summer in a 3% positivity rate. Illinois was kicking ass there for a while.
I could not care less about her sexuality. No one appointed me as a judge or as some sort of "guardian of heterosexuality" and so far from what I have seen she handles herself with class and dignity. Of course by today's standards the bar is pretty low.
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Postby SmalliesNEyes » Nov Fri 20, 2020 9:38 am

RonG wrote:Image

This scene from yesterday's press conference was enough to cause mass Hysteria. They're calling him Ghoulini again. :shock: I guess he was sweating like Rosie O'Donnell does when she frantically struggles to get the lid off a gallon pail of ice cream causing his hair dye to run down his face. :lol: Alice Cooper should hire him and Lori to be in his freak show concerts. Ah, the face of Chicago and the face of New York City.


This guy has fallen so far, and is such a despicable person at this point... He really is Ghouliani. He's the worst.
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Re: Media created mass Hysteria

Postby bobberwatcher » Nov Fri 20, 2020 11:36 am

Kankrat- I agree with what you said about Illinois handling of the pandemic. I generally don't care about anyone's personal life but I hate the way acceptance of that lifestyle is being forced on people and mainstreamed, kids are being exposed to it on tv and everywhere as if it's normal. Sorry but I have a problem with that. Actually, no, not sorry.
As for Ghoulianni- he really has changed, so much so that I had to google whether or not the former NY mayor and Trump's lawyer are one and the same. So glad somebody pointed out that the thing on his face is hair dye- I was wondering what the heck that is!
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