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Kayak accident leaves two dead

Postby RonG » Sep Sat 26, 2015 6:09 pm

What have we learned on WCF when kayaking big water?

1) Dress for the water temps (wetsuit or drysuit) and

2) Consider a SOT kayak vs a sit-in

These guys got swamped in 37 degree water. Reporters quick to point out that "they were wearing life preservers." :roll:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-34359150

Good news! Neither one, thanks to their pfds drowned, but dead is still dead. The other nine that were "wearing life preservers" are in the hospital fighting hypothermia. :cry:
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Re: Kayak accident leaves two dead

Postby FishinMatt » Sep Sat 26, 2015 7:18 pm

That is some cold water.not too much direct then falling through the ice.
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Re: Kayak accident leaves two dead

Postby Aux Pleins » Sep Sat 26, 2015 8:13 pm

I tend to wear blue jeans a lot when kayaking the dpr in below freezing temps on short outings. But then again if I fall in I could just walk 100 yrds to the next Starbucks before hypothermia kicks in. One of the few perks of being an Urban Angler..
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Re: Kayak accident leaves two dead

Postby BrookfieldAngler » Sep Sat 26, 2015 8:42 pm

Aux Pleins wrote:I tend to wear blue jeans a lot when kayaking the dpr in below freezing temps on short outings. But then again if I fall in I could just walk 100 yrds to the next Starbucks before hypothermia kicks in. One of the few perks of being an Urban Angler..


Ever test that theory? How'd you do with the cold shock?
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Re: Kayak accident leaves two dead

Postby RonG » Sep Sat 26, 2015 10:52 pm

BrookfieldAngler wrote:
Aux Pleins wrote:I tend to wear blue jeans a lot when kayaking the dpr in below freezing temps on short outings. But then again if I fall in I could just walk 100 yrds to the next Starbucks before hypothermia kicks in. One of the few perks of being an Urban Angler..


Ever test that theory? How'd you do with the cold shock?


I know a guy that during early ice, fell through at Hermann's into the nipple-deep water. He got out, but his jeans were freezing solid and didn't know if he would make it back to his truck. It wasn't that far, but hypothermia was setting in already.

I rolled my kayak in Lake Michigan and ended up in water that was around 37 degrees. I was in a wetsuit and never felt the cold. I got the kayak right-sided and emptied. I switched my winter coat for the only other thing I had with me, my St Croix hoodie, paddled out 3 miles and caught a fine basket of perch.
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Re: Kayak accident leaves two dead

Postby Aux Pleins » Sep Sun 27, 2015 2:44 am

BrookfieldAngler wrote:
Aux Pleins wrote:I tend to wear blue jeans a lot when kayaking the dpr in below freezing temps on short outings. But then again if I fall in I could just walk 100 yrds to the next Starbucks before hypothermia kicks in. One of the few perks of being an Urban Angler..


Ever test that theory? How'd you do with the cold shock?


Yes, last year while walking my dog in -17 degrees, she ended up falling through some thin ice and could not get out. She was definitely where she shouldnt have been, but thats another story. I had to climb down the steepest bank in the area then bash my way through 1 inch ice in 4-5 feet of water. I was about 300 yards from the truck at that point. Got back to the truck and my pant legs were frozen. The next morning my car seat was frozen solid from my wet ass, steeming wheel was coversed in ice. Funny thing was, I was cold before I went in the water and I was steaming when I came out. Mainly due to frustration and anger with the dog. This was around the time the dozen firemen pulled that deer out of the river down your ways. I remember shaking my head and saying I just did that.

Cold shock?? Not trying to be a badass, but I've got viking blood and I work outside 365. Okay, im a badass. If that happened to some yuppie, yeah I can see them drowning from fear, shock, or hypothermia.

If I know I'm going to be kayaking for more than a couple hours away from home I'll wear waders. December and January are my most productive big fish months on the DPR, winter kayaking is a norm for me. Wet suit not required on the river. Can you wear one? Sure, but that's kinda like the guy on the bike trail wearing the Lance Armstrong tights, just a little overkill. On Lake Michigan, where there's a good chance of getting thrown around like pinball, yes to the wetsuit and oxygen mask if available. Ice fishermen fall in a bit, they know more about it than kayakers. I know once or twice a winter I go in knee deep with at least one leg on the soggy shorelines. Then I debate whether to ice fish the rest of the day still or risk frost bite.

That's a good question to ask, some guys aren't prepared for falling in or just panic. Being calm and confident is the best safety precaution I know of in any emergency situation.
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Re: Kayak accident leaves two dead

Postby Bassin' Ted » Sep Sun 27, 2015 7:11 am

Aux Pleins wrote:Cold shock?? Not trying to be a badass, but I've got viking blood and I work outside 365. Okay, im a badass. If that happened to some yuppie, yeah I can see them drowning from fear, shock, or hypothermia.



Hypothermia is not something you can overcome because of your mindset. And being outside every day wouldn't matter.
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Re: Kayak accident leaves two dead

Postby bobberwatcher » Sep Sun 27, 2015 8:37 am

I'm assuming the dog was ok...
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Re: Kayak accident leaves two dead

Postby RonG » Sep Sun 27, 2015 11:26 am

bobberwatcher wrote:I'm assuming the dog was ok...


After a grande mocha mucho latte at Starbucks, the pup came around and is doing fine.
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Re: Kayak accident leaves two dead

Postby Aux Pleins » Sep Sun 27, 2015 3:37 pm

Somebody check Teds pulse, no sense of humor. :? Come see me in February rocking just a thermal outside for 12hrs.

Dog was fine, she probably has viking blood as well. She seems to love swimming in the colder months more than summer.
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Re: Kayak accident leaves two dead

Postby Davidhhuff444 » May Thu 14, 2020 1:04 am

Ann English understudy have kicked the bucket while kayaking on a lake in New Zealand's South Island, subsequent to being hit by solid breezes that tipped them into the virus water.

Nine others were protected in the occurrence at Lake Tekapo, a well known visitor goal.

Those protected are experiencing hypothermia and some have been taken to clinic, police said in an announcement.

The entirety of the gathering were wearing life coats.


The casualties have been distinguished as James Murphy, 20, from London and 21-year-old Daniel Hollnsteiner from New York state. Both were international students with Monash College in Australia.

Third year truth seeker Mr Murphy was on a trade trip from Warwick College.

Warwick's bad habit chancellor Educator Sir Nigel Frugality stated: "Our considerations are with the loved ones of the considerable number of understudies engaged with this mishap.

"We are gigantically thankful for the help and help being offered to the understudies and their families by our associates in Monash College."

A Facebook page set up by Monash College portrayed how the passings left understudies and staff "profoundly disheartened".

A representative for the UK Outside Office stated: "We can affirm the demise of an English national in New Zealand on September 25. We are offering help to the family and are in contact with the New Zealand specialists."

Police Overseer Dave Gaskin, the mid-south Canterbury region officer, disclosed to Radio New Zealand that the kayaks were "overwhelmed" after an unexpected climate change.
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The temperature in the lake was about 3C, and it would have been considerably colder with the breezes, he stated, as indicated by the New Zealand Messenger.
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Re: Kayak accident leaves two dead

Postby Davidhhuff444 » May Thu 14, 2020 1:07 am

Davidhhuff444 wrote:Ann English understudy have kicked the bucket while kayaking on a lake in New Zealand's South Island, subsequent to being hit by solid breezes that tipped them into the virus water.

Nine others were protected in the occurrence at Lake Tekapo, a well known visitor goal.

Those protected are experiencing hypothermia and some have been taken to clinic, police said in an announcement.

The entirety of the gathering were wearing life coats.


The casualties have been distinguished as James Murphy, 20, from London and 21-year-old Daniel Hollnsteiner from New York state. Both were international students with Monash College in Australia.

Third year truth seeker Mr Murphy was on a trade trip from Warwick College.

Warwick's bad habit chancellor Educator Sir Nigel Frugality stated: "Our considerations are with the loved ones of the considerable number of understudies engaged with this mishap.

"We are gigantically thankful for the help and help being offered to the understudies and their families by our associates in Monash College."

A Facebook page set up by Monash College portrayed how the passings left understudies and staff "profoundly disheartened".

A representative for the UK Outside Office stated: "We can affirm the demise of an English national in New Zealand on September 25. We are offering help to the family and are in contact with the New Zealand specialists."

Police Overseer Dave Gaskin, the mid-south Canterbury region officer, disclosed to Radio New Zealand that the kayaks were "overwhelmed" after an unexpected climate change.
https://epictub.com/best-inflatable-kayak-under-500/
The temperature in the lake was about 3C, and it would have been considerably colder with the breezes, he stated, as indicated by the New Zealand Messenger.
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Re: Kayak accident leaves two dead

Postby RonG » May Thu 14, 2020 6:09 am

Davidhhuff444 wrote:Ann English understudy have kicked the bucket while kayaking


Ann English was a very sweet woman and you are so crude to speak of her demise in that manner. :thumbdown:



Davidhhuff444 wrote:Nine others were protected in the occurrence at Lake Tekapo subsequent to being hit by solid breezes that tipped them into the virus water.


Lake Take-A-Poo has many viruses, mainly causes by kayakers like this defecating into it's already filthy water. :sick: :sick:



Davidhhuff444 wrote:Those protected are experiencing hypothermia


I've sometimes wondered if protection is worth the bother myself.



Davidhhuff444 wrote:Third year truth seeker Mr Murphy was on a trade trip


The truth cannot be found on a trade trip so close to China. Everyone knows that...



Davidhhuff444 wrote:Warwick's bad habit chancellor...stated:


I want this man's job! I am well qualified! "Bad Habit Chancellor" So cool! :angel:



Davidhhuff444 wrote:Police Overseer Dave Gaskin, disclosed to Radio New Zealand that the kayaks were "overwhelmed" after an unexpected climate change.


All this climate change talk is mostly fake news, but even the "believers" can't swallow the story of climate change so rapid that it takes out kayak party. Even a magnetic pole reversal of earth wouldn't do that. Nice try. :thumbdown:


Davidhhuff444 wrote:The temperature in the lake was about 3C, and it would have been considerably colder with the breezes



One important characteristic of water is that the colder it gets in temperature, the heavier it gets as well. Warm water is lighter, less dense, which means its molecules are more spread out. Therefore warm water rises to the surface, while cold water sinks to the bottom. Fresh water is at its densest when it is at a cold 4.0°C. The strong winds would have caused an upwelling of the warmer water from the depths and the surface water would have actually been warmer than the 3 degrees that you stated, not colder. Please stop with your fake news agenda!


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I do give you credit for registering on WCF 3 weeks ago and starting your spamming now. Most of you guys start spamming 5 seconds after joining. Much more stealthy! Thanks for giving my thread a bump.
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Re: Kayak accident leaves two dead

Postby Rambler » May Thu 14, 2020 7:16 am

Ron - why do you even bother with these assholes?
Keep calm and fish on...

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Re: Kayak accident leaves two dead

Postby RonG » May Thu 14, 2020 7:39 am

I like to hear the sound of me typing.
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Re: Kayak accident leaves two dead

Postby badger75 » May Thu 14, 2020 9:58 pm

RonG ... ... …. lol
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Re: Kayak accident leaves two dead

Postby Rambler » May Fri 15, 2020 9:08 am

RonG wrote:I like to hear the sound of me typing.

You should consider trading in your Olivetti for a laptop. :lol:
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