Caught this weird fish , might it be a Dogfish? Caught on a 5inch dinger
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Caught on Geneva today help identify?
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SNAKEHEAD!!!!!
Juuust kiddin. (that's what everyone panics and believe they have, when they see one of those). Def a Bowfin AKA dogfish.
Juuust kiddin. (that's what everyone panics and believe they have, when they see one of those). Def a Bowfin AKA dogfish.
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Ditto. And I like the pic with the sideways hat! Gangsta!Cranked said:
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That pic is priceless. I would of loved to have been in the boat to see your reaction to that one!
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Definitely a bowfin, but killing them is terrible advice. Bowfin are a native species to many Wisconsin waters and have been around longer than almost any other species there. They, like all other native species, are a crucial component to the eco system on that lake and killing them just to kill them is a pretty ignorant move. Besides, as you discovered, they are an amazing fighting fish that will readily hit lures like any prized game fish. They are a blast on top water.
There is a ton of information out there on the web about bowfin and other native Wisconsin species. Here is an article from the WDNR about some native species of fish with declining numbers and the challenge that poses to the eco system.
http://dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/html/stories/2 ... /shore.htm
There is a ton of information out there on the web about bowfin and other native Wisconsin species. Here is an article from the WDNR about some native species of fish with declining numbers and the challenge that poses to the eco system.
http://dnr.wi.gov/wnrmag/html/stories/2 ... /shore.htm
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x3Emcho said:
Bowfin have been here longer then most other things and do just fine in a balanced ecosystem. I know a pond that is mostly bowfin and larger than average largemouth bass, they do fine together.
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I have only caught a few up at Lauderdale Lakes, but loved the fight. The first one I caught cut the heck out of my finger, but luckily I lived 8)
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I always liked the ocelus spot on their tails. Similar to oscars or peacock bass in that regard.
Through the LL threads I remember the mention of a few being caught over the years on G. Same thing with the white bass.
Through the LL threads I remember the mention of a few being caught over the years on G. Same thing with the white bass.
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Here are is some support for the position that they are an important part of the balanced ecosystem. 30 to 40 years ago, the opinions of these fish was that they competed with the ever popular bass and that they should be eliminated so that bass fishing would be better, but so what? At one point in time it was considered a good idea to go out and destroy alligator gar and paddle fish but that attitude has changed now that those species were decimated. Eventually, smart human beings realized that previous thoughts were wrong about things and figured out that the species needs to be protected. As a matter of fact, in the early 1990's, biologists realized that the decimation of this species was not a good idea and they began to be appreciated for their value and balance to the ecosystem.
Also, the assumption myth that they are crazy fish that eat absolutely everything in sight was an incorrect statement. They eat very little, if any, vegetation and instead eat crayfish, frogs, and other forage species. Here are a link showing the results of dietary studies of the bowfin
http://www.bio.txstate.edu/~tbonner/txfishes/amia calva.htm - look in the biology section for the food intakes
Here is a link that talks about diet as well as the importance of the bowfin to stop other species from stunted growth
http://edocs.dlis.state.fl.us/fldocs/fwcc/fisheries/cityfisher/CITFSH6.pdf
Here is a link that mentions that bowfin, contrary to the arguments made in this thread, do not have a negative impact on other fish in that particular ecosystem
http://www.michigandnr.com/publications/pdfs/ifr/ifrlibra/Status/waterbody/00-14.htm
http://www.cnrhome.uidaho.edu/docum...chia and Wahl Fifty years fish mgmt Iowa Little Wall Lake.pdf?pid=103297&doc=1 - page 13 talks about the value of bowfin and a balanced system vs a game fish focus like many people seem to have.
While it may be hard to understand for some, people do learn as time goes on. Old prejudices need to be put aside and people need to keep up to date on things since things do change. Heck, at one time, it was "a known fact" that witches were among us and that they needed to be burned at the stake!! That attitude was obviously quite wrong and we need to not have that attitude about a fish that was here long before us. Trying to play god in an ecosystem for the sake of making a prime sport fishery is very unethical - especially on a body of water that was made by nature and not man. If a person, or group of people, want to do that on a man made lake, then that's their prerogative.
Also, the assumption myth that they are crazy fish that eat absolutely everything in sight was an incorrect statement. They eat very little, if any, vegetation and instead eat crayfish, frogs, and other forage species. Here are a link showing the results of dietary studies of the bowfin
http://www.bio.txstate.edu/~tbonner/txfishes/amia calva.htm - look in the biology section for the food intakes
Here is a link that talks about diet as well as the importance of the bowfin to stop other species from stunted growth
http://edocs.dlis.state.fl.us/fldocs/fwcc/fisheries/cityfisher/CITFSH6.pdf
Here is a link that mentions that bowfin, contrary to the arguments made in this thread, do not have a negative impact on other fish in that particular ecosystem
http://www.michigandnr.com/publications/pdfs/ifr/ifrlibra/Status/waterbody/00-14.htm
http://www.cnrhome.uidaho.edu/docum...chia and Wahl Fifty years fish mgmt Iowa Little Wall Lake.pdf?pid=103297&doc=1 - page 13 talks about the value of bowfin and a balanced system vs a game fish focus like many people seem to have.
While it may be hard to understand for some, people do learn as time goes on. Old prejudices need to be put aside and people need to keep up to date on things since things do change. Heck, at one time, it was "a known fact" that witches were among us and that they needed to be burned at the stake!! That attitude was obviously quite wrong and we need to not have that attitude about a fish that was here long before us. Trying to play god in an ecosystem for the sake of making a prime sport fishery is very unethical - especially on a body of water that was made by nature and not man. If a person, or group of people, want to do that on a man made lake, then that's their prerogative.
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For anyone insterested, there is a group of bowfin enthusiasts who have website called http://www.bowfinanglers.com. If you got to http://www.bowfinanglers.com/myths.html you will find a list of common myths about these fish.
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...and I encourage everyone to do their own research and draw conclusions from there as I am confident that most who do will be rewarded with a better knowledge of these fish and a new appreciation for them.
I generally find that critical thinking and research is a much better way to learn about something than listening to some guy on an internet forum. Posting a link to the bowfin site isn't narrow minded - it's simply another possible source for others.
I generally find that critical thinking and research is a much better way to learn about something than listening to some guy on an internet forum. Posting a link to the bowfin site isn't narrow minded - it's simply another possible source for others.
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nicee bowfin. lucky, i want to catch one :mrgreen:
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