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DasGoby said:
No pics of the snakeheads?
Can do..... :D

Truthfully, I really dont snap many picks of them. Im usually too irritated re-bending my hooks back in shape or replacing the plastic they just finished destroying to care about the pic. They are truly everywhere, here. One could easily run around town & keep the rod bent all day on 2-10lb snakeheads.

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Bad pic of a hollow-bodied down deep
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& a non-gilled 1, of which I have no clue what kind it was
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Unbeknownst to me, Oscars eat frogs
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& lastly,
I for 1 like graffiti that makes you have to think.....
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FishinMatt said:
I love that you still post these reports. Probably my favorite on this site. I have had a bad batch of Pline straight out of the store. I was broke off a few smallies on the leader so I grabbed the spool and was able to break off the 8lb fluro over and over just pulling with my hand. No other issues other then that spool and I use it religiously for leaders. Maybe you just had a bad batch?
Thanks matt. I think no matter where I go, Ill always be a FIB @ heart.......(unfortunately :p )

Definitely possible but his would be the 3rd time in 3 yrs (3 different spools). I, too, use the stuff quite a bit for leader material. Between 8 & 30lb, I probably have about10 spools of it around. As Bassin ted mentions, I find it has its limitations too, but if you rig accordingly & dont use it for apps its not suited for, its been mostly adequate, or, fair for the price. Ive never considered it "the" answer for leader line, but used it as an option pretty regularly. The random incidents of breakage/deterioration are kinda weird, though, & limited solely to the PLine. Have several other brands of mono/fluoro stored along with it, exposed to all the same things, and experienced nothing similar out of the other brands.
Looking fwd to your spring delevan slam reports as well!
 
I recently had a bad day of losing good fish. My P-line kept breaking. That night I respooled. Working fine now. It was on the reel since last year, but had been used along the way. I can't be sure if it suddenly went bad or had been that way. Will be checking my line more often. Keeping some spare in the vehicle.
 
Good read and some nice pics. Any reason for using those double hooks on a toad vs a single hook? Can you skin hook the points to make it weedless? I've been using screwlock 4/0 for horny toads, 5/0 ewg for zoom frogs, and feel it does okay if I remember to pause and let them eat it rather than rip for the sky when I see the explosion :lol:. Can't wait for frogging season up here!
 
Discussion starter · #24 ·
badger75 said:
I recently had a bad day of losing good fish
I feel your pain. We deserve better.

mike son said:
Good read and some nice pics. Any reason for using those double hooks on a toad vs a single hook? Can you skin hook the points to make it weedless?
Thank you.
Why, you ask? Because taking something that works pretty well & leaving it alone makes too much sense when you can overcomplicate the sh*t out of it, instead... :D

Seriously, though, Ive always used some type of single screwlock hook, & it works well, but at times it seems 1 hookset, & the screw tears up the plastic as such that it becomes a hassle re-rig it straight, or optimally. Changes the swimming angle, hook-point exposure just enough to be annoying. Thought the double might help preserve the plastic in some way. Didnt make a noticeable difference.
My findings in limited use of double hooks:
-The good: marginally hooks fish better than the single.
-The bad: more awkward to get it "perfectly rigged". Lighter-gauge hooks didnt take much to bend out of shape & once they get misalligened it makes it harder to tex-pose (or skin-hook) both points. & yes mike, they will skin hook. At least until they get mangled.
My go-to frogs are strike king rage toads, with the gambler cane toad my #2. On the rage toads, I use a 6/0 owner screwlock , the cane toads a 4/0 EWG without a screwlock seems to stay "riggable" longer on the cane toads.
I did experiment a little with rigging the last 2 outings. After screwing the plastic onto the keeper, I stuck a tiny piece of single-strand wire into the plastic "through" the screwlock. It seemed to help limit how much the screw moved during hookset/ hooked fish.
Anyway, here goes:
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Want to be double sure? Stab 1 piece in across & 1 vertically, so they
go thru the center of the screw lock.
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Trim it so the wire does not stick out of the plastic.(squish the plastic, trim, let go)
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Not a 100% solution, but it DOES seem to have bought me an extra couple hooksets/fish per frog, which is not a big deal, but when the fish are cracking them, it sure doesnt take long to tear up 15-20$ worth of frogs. In that case, any bit helps!
Im sure any semi-rigid, ultra thin wire would work in place of single-strand, or even a toothpick, but the thin wire seems to cause less "colateral damage" to the plastic & stays perfectly in place better.
 
That is a neat rig. I always use screwlock hook for Rage Toads as well. As a side note I switched to Seagur Floro several years ago and really like it. Seeing as I only use it for leader material a spool lasts for about 3 seasons or so.
 
That's a pretty good idea. I recall a conversation about buzz toads in a post of mine from last year with bassblaster(?). He recommended the senko o rings to help snug the head when using the ewg hooks. Also, I know owner makes a large size cps spring lock but I have yet to try it. I had been using the zoom frogs later last year with ewg. It's made of a tougher material and it floats but doesn't take well to screw locks. Check em out, though I'm not sure how it would stand up to toothy fish.

https://www.tacklewarehouse.com/Zoom_Fr ... e-ZF3.html
 
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Mike, thanks, will definitely check those out. The snakeheads definitely make you go thru a ton of them, Im curious to see those you linked.

As for fishing, bass fishing has been off the last couple days. A couple of barely keeper sized but not much else in the way of bass.
Snakeheads, well, if you can stand the midday heat/humidity 1 could catch as many snakeheads as they'd like.
Most of the peacocks are bedded up right now & easy to spot. Mostly, I have been leaving them alone but you could catch every 1 you see if you so wanted. Ill play with the ditch pickles & snakeheads until theyr'e done, or it gets too hot & disgusting to bother with, I suppose.
BUT......I did get a little beast as I was finishing my morning walk. An easy 5lb peacock charged my frog. Peacocks very often chase, ram into, slap at frogs, but almost never eat them. Well, when I cast back to this guy, he slammed it! Usually I catch peacocks on ML or L spinning gear or M casting, 10-15lb braid with moderate drag setting. Caught this guy on my lighter frog stick, 7'1H + 50lb braid, & a locked-down, buried drag :D . A different fight! A bit more of a "toe to toe" battle. Geez, what strong fish!
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