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RonG said:
I guess Sweden is not doing too well with their 'let it rip' experiment and is paying the price now.

Bloomberg News said:
Sweden was recently forced to recalibrate its approach against the virus, as the daily Covid death rate topped 7,000. In what Prime Minister Stefan Lofven called an "unprecedented" step earlier this month, Swedes will no longer be free to gather in public in groups larger than eight. The sale of alcohol is now also banned after 10 p.m.

Read more at: https://www.bloombergquint.com/onweb/sw ... -the-virus
My eyes bugged out with the 7,000 :shock: :shock: figure. How could a tiny country have daily deaths 7X higher than the USA?? Surely, they'll all be dead within the next month. :sick: I was getting ready to go and claim some nice homes and land in Sweden since there would be no occupants of anything there, nor anyone to stop me. :idea: :thumbup:

I researched and found that the real stats are that Sweden has lost a total of 6,400 since the pandemic started. Not sure, why fake-news Bloomberg news is reporting the rates are now 7,000 a day. :crazy: If it's not deliberate lies, it's reporting sloppier than JB Prixter in an all-you-can-eat ribs joint. Stupid fake news.
It's simply a typo Ron. It should have been stated as the daily Covid infection rate broke 7,000, not death rate. They started breaking 7,000 on the 19th. Not everything is the media trying to deliberately mislead people with fake news.
 
SmalliesNEyes said:
RonG said:
I guess Sweden is not doing too well with their 'let it rip' experiment and is paying the price now.

Bloomberg News said:
Sweden was recently forced to recalibrate its approach against the virus, as the daily Covid death rate topped 7,000. In what Prime Minister Stefan Lofven called an "unprecedented" step earlier this month, Swedes will no longer be free to gather in public in groups larger than eight. The sale of alcohol is now also banned after 10 p.m.

Read more at: https://www.bloombergquint.com/onweb/sw ... -the-virus
Article says case rate.

My eyes bugged out with the 7,000 :shock: :shock: figure. How could a tiny country have daily deaths 7X higher than the USA?? Surely, they'll all be dead within the next month. :sick: I was getting ready to go and claim some nice homes and land in Sweden since there would be no occupants of anything there, nor anyone to stop me. :idea: :thumbup:

I researched and found that the real stats are that Sweden has lost a total of 6,400 since the pandemic started. Not sure, why fake-news Bloomberg news is reporting the rates are now 7,000 a day. :crazy: If it's not deliberate lies, it's reporting sloppier than JB Prixter in an all-you-can-eat ribs joint. Stupid fake news.
It's simply a typo Ron. It should have been stated as the daily Covid infection rate broke 7,000, not death rate. They started breaking 7,000 on the 19th. Not everything is the media trying to deliberately mislead people with fake news.
 
A typo is spelling a word wrong, transposing something, adding one too many zeros. No, that's why I referred to it as 'slop' reporting. It wasn't a typo. It was a professional journalist having no clue on what they are reporting. BTW, I see the story has been updated now over 4 times, yet they leave that stand as the writer doesn't know what a positive test total is from a daily death total.
 
RonG said:
A typo is spelling a word wrong, transposing something, adding one too many zeros. No, that's why I referred to it as 'slop' reporting. It wasn't a typo. It was a professional journalist having no clue on what they are reporting. BTW, I see the story has been updated now over 4 times, yet they leave that stand as the writer doesn't know what a positive test total is from a daily death total.
Ron - suggest you move to Sweden & apply for the editors position. All papers - all around the world - are in need of good editors. Have you read the Trib lately? Freaking awful.
 
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Rambler said:
Have you read the Trib lately? Freaking awful.
I'll take your word for it. Reporting is in the toilet and I was starting to think there were no more editors to review what goes to print or air. Maybe the Trib is using Grammerly or some other spell checker software in lieu of a real editor. 'Probably using Alexa to gather it's news to publish.

Hiring a journalist or reporter now is more on merit of their bias than on any education, skills or experience.

**update: Half hour ago, they posted a correction saying they were wrong and shouldn't have said '7000 daily deaths'. Now they updated that and have taken out any mention of them screwing up. There is a lot of deliberate hit-and-run journalism. They post lies, slander and mistruths and only delete it or post a correction several days later when no one will ever see it. But in the meantime the damage is done just like the amount of time I've wasted on this today. :thumbdown:
 
RonG said:
Hiring a journalist or reporter now is more on merit of their bias than on any education, skills or experience.
It's been going on for years Ron. Saw it years ago when I was getting my undergrad the malcontents writing editorials for the school newspaper. We'd all laugh at how out of touch they were and ham handed they were in pushing their dogma as we ate in the dormatory cafeteria. Then I'd hear snarky comments from pinhead writers I worked with for a local paper with a summer job as a teen, detached from reality. A cloistered and incaucated bunch to be sure.

Now we have to de-program the 8yo were raising with all the nonsense they pump into her head and ask her to use critical reasoning. Some day she's going to wave Mao's little red book in front of us.
 
I read all the local online rags when the state updates their numbers at 1p everyday. They do their best to illicit fear and downplay anything that does not illicit fear. It may be political, but I think the media mostly goes for the shock treatment to get clicks. If a headline and first paragraph grips a reader more then a competitors, they are rewarded with more clicks and loyalty. I miss me some Dan Rather. I wonder what the media is going to focus on when Trump is out of office and corornavirus is in the rear view mirror.
 
FishinMatt said:
I read all the local online rags when the state updates their numbers at 1p everyday. They do their best to illicit fear and downplay anything that does not illicit fear. It may be political, but I think the media mostly goes for the shock treatment to get clicks. If a headline and first paragraph grips a reader more then a competitors, they are rewarded with more clicks and loyalty. I miss me some Dan Rather. I wonder what the media is going to focus on when Trump is out of office and corornavirus is in the rear view mirror.
LOL! Follow Dan Rather on Twitter. I do. I think he's freaking hilarious and totally awesome, but my guess is ya'll might not share that feeling.
 
Dan Rather is best when he's not entrusted with any news. He is the clown who pushed forged documents in his effort to throw a US presidential election. The scandal was ranked #3 on the Ten biggest TV blunders and he got booted. The Godfather of intentional fake news. He was Charles Manson and the news outlets are now filled with his followers.

His 'Big Interview' show where he interviews classic rock and other artists is excellent. I've got it set to auto-record each episode when they air and watch them while I work out. For this show he actually is quite knowledgeable on his interviewees, doing good pre-taping research. He's well-engaged and puts together a good show.
 
FishinMatt said:
If a headline and first paragraph grips a reader more then a competitors, they are rewarded with more clicks and loyalty. I miss me some Dan Rather. I wonder what the media is going to focus on when Trump is out of office and corornavirus is in the rear view mirror.
Gentlemen, "If it bleeds it leads" has been the rule of journalism for over a century. Check out the coverage of the explosion of the USS Maine in Havana Harbor in 1898 - the lead-up to the Spanish-American War. Sensationalism sells!

And Matt - I've been wondering the same. But I'm pretty sure the Trumpster will continue to give Fox, MSNBC and CNN plenty of fodder for the next few years.
 
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Trump isnt going anywhere. CNN, MSNBC and even Fox is "fake news" now (how dare they call Biden president-elect) :roll: With OAN and Newsmax feeding his devout followers the "news" they want to hear, he'll be rolling in the PAC dough. 75% of his sham recount donations are going to his PAC. he'll be holding rallies for at least the next two years when he's not too busy golfing at Maralago. I doubt he'll run again in 2024 but he'll probably hand pick lyin Ted or little Marco as the next nominee
 
FloridaRigger said:
Trump isnt going anywhere. CNN, MSNBC and even Fox is "fake news" now (how dare they call Biden president-elect) :roll: With OAN and Newsmax feeding his devout followers the "news" they want to hear, he'll be rolling in the PAC dough. 75% of his sham recount donations are going to his PAC. he'll be holding rallies for at least the next two years when he's not too busy golfing at Maralago. I doubt he'll run again in 2024 but he'll probably hand pick lyin Ted or little Marco as the next nominee
I predict he will start his own network or Home shopping club?
Maybe Don Jr. in 24. Don't think lyin' Ted is electable. That's a tough call.

Shall we take bets how fast his old lady divorces him? Bet she wants the hell outa there.
 
RonG said:
Dan Rather is best when he's not entrusted with any news. He is the clown who pushed forged documents in his effort to throw a US presidential election. The scandal was ranked #3 on the Ten biggest TV blunders and he got booted. The Godfather of intentional fake news. He was Charles Manson and the news outlets are now filled with his followers.

His 'Big Interview' show where he interviews classic rock and other artists is excellent. I've got it set to auto-record each episode when they air and watch them while I work out. For this show he actually is quite knowledgeable on his interviewees, doing good pre-taping research. He's well-engaged and puts together a good show.
In all honesty I didn't watch him on CBS, as I have not watched television on a regular basis in 25 years. But I remember that scandal. He ended up apologizing, then he got fired then he sued twice claiming that CBS scapegoated him, nothing became of those suits. That ended a really, really long career with CBS.
At the end of the day, when it came to military service GWB was no GHWB. He was certainly no John McCain. I would have to research it, but I think there were documents that turned out to be illegitimate, but it was never proven that the info in them was fake.
At that point in time the US was chest deep in Iraq and Afghanistan and I remember almost voting for Bush, because I didn't see the next 4 years looking so bright, and I felt the Republicans should have to ride that one out. boy was I right about that.
I like DR now, basically for reasons you said, but most of all because among others he trolls Trump on Twitter, which I find highly humorous. He is damn funny when he wants to be.
With regard to GW, i spent pretty much the better part of his presidency despising him (which is an understatement), I have to say he really conducted himself with class afterwards and I specifically remember as Obama entered office he said, I think this is pretty much a quote " I hope he can fix it". I read that Obama and GHW were pretty good friends and he- Obama would seek counsel from him regularly.

 
Rambler said:
FishinMatt said:
If a headline and first paragraph grips a reader more then a competitors, they are rewarded with more clicks and loyalty. I miss me some Dan Rather. I wonder what the media is going to focus on when Trump is out of office and corornavirus is in the rear view mirror.
Gentlemen, "If it bleeds it leads" has been the rule of journalism for over a century. Check out the coverage of the explosion of the USS Maine in Havana Harbor in 1898 - the lead-up to the Spanish-American War. Sensationalism sells!

And Matt - I've been wondering the same. But I'm pretty sure the Trumpster will continue to give Fox, MSNBC and CNN plenty of fodder for the next few years.
KankRat said:
RonG said:
KankRat said:
I went to catholic school and had to attend mass 6 days a week.
That means in 8 years I had to listen to this POS sermon about 2500 times.
There is more dirt on him on line.
What pieces of garbage, he and his cohorts. So sad to see an organization take such a strong stand against abortion with most thinking it's about saving little babies. Then you find out it's more the church's fear that each baby aborted equals one less child for their protected clergy to have to sexually abuse down the road. Interesting too to see the gay community's stand that men abusing boys (pedophilia) are not homosexual acts. :think: So sick and so many victims. :thumbdown: There should be a law against it. Where is Charles Bronson when you need him?

The problem is so widespread and massive worldwide, they will have zero assets left when all is said and done and the victims are all paid.
Pedophilia is rape.
As a purported member of the heterosexual community would you consider a grown man molesting a little girl a heterosexual act?
Crickets.
 
KankRat said:
I predict he will start his own network or Home shopping club?
Maybe Don Jr. in 24. Don't think lyin' Ted is electable. That's a tough call.

Shall we take bets how fast his old lady divorces him? Bet she wants the hell outa there.
IDK, Lyin Ted's new beard has reduced his Jay Cutler-esque jerk face factor.
 
FloridaRigger said:
KankRat said:
I predict he will start his own network or Home shopping club?
Maybe Don Jr. in 24. Don't think lyin' Ted is electable. That's a tough call.

Shall we take bets how fast his old lady divorces him? Bet she wants the hell outa there.
IDK, Lyin Ted's new beard has reduced his Jay Cutler-esque jerk face factor.
true and he is really great at debate. boy his father is a whack job. The bible thumpers would probably love him.
 
Seems like you guys are forgetting the very real possibility tRUMP will spend his declining years as a guest of the State of New York at their facility in Ossining.

I think they're waiting until 1/21/21 to pay him a visit at Maralago.
 
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Covid's still raging in the U.P. Got word yesterday of a friend in the ICU and an uncle hospitalized, not sure how's he's doing yet.

Stay safe up north there, catchafew.
 
30 currently hospitalized in the Ontonagon, U.P. hospital from Covid. I doubt if they even have that many beds and rooms. 'Was a town of 1000 but now with the shipyard closed, the paper mill closed and the copper mine closed I doubt if there's 500 folks left. That's a real bad proportion of very sick people. :shock:
 
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