BUT!! Saturday was a good time, if standing in a 20+ knot wind with sideways snowfall, amongst a bunch of like minded loons!! It WAS cool, GREAT to meet all the " reg'lars " and the 'Fish Shixa' , and although that lake has no damn fish in it, the 'practice' of Zen Philosophy: 'Be The Emperor Penguin' is good for one's constitution and perseverance, and gives credence to the notion ' Gore-Tex and long underwear is a GOOD thing' ... I'll await Jason's posting of the photos....... CAN'T WAIT TO FREEZE MY CABOOSE OFF, 'WALKING ON WATER' WITH Y'ALL AGIN..... Alex