So glad somebody pointed out that the thing on his face is hair dye- I was wondering what the heck that is!

I'd still like to see what would happen if DJ Trump ever got caught in a rainstorm without an umbrella.

Lol. He'd look like a Cheeto? Orange suit and all.

 

Kankrat- I agree with what you said about Illinois handling of the pandemic. I generally don't care about anyone's personal life but I hate the way acceptance of that lifestyle is being forced on people and mainstreamed, kids are being exposed to it on tv and everywhere as if it's normal. Sorry but I have a problem with that. Actually, no, not sorry.

Normal:
1. conforming to a standard; usual, typical, or expected.

2. (of a person) free from physical or mental disorders.


Lori Lightfoot seems to conform to both of these definitions to me.

No one forces you to go out and tongue wrestle with dudes, no forces you to watch TV, no one forces you to allow your kids to watch TV that you feel inappropriate. Frankly I don't want you dictate what my kids can watch or not.
Change the f'ing channel. That's the American way.

That talk about "lock the closet", I mean really?
Have you ever known anyone "in the closet". That is not a happy place. That's why so many gay teenagers kill themselves. Does that make you feel good? How would you feel if your un-acceptance was the the "last straw" for someone.

How does the sexuality between two consenting adults...most of which you don't even know... affect you in the slightest way? Are you so mentally unhinged by that, it became such a focus? If you ask me that's abnormal.

 

I was practically raised by an uncle that I loved dearly. He supported me when my own father didn't. My uncle was gay. I can separate the lifestyle from the person. My problem is the attitude that if society doesn't accept this lifestyle, it's wrong, discriminatory. They demand their rights like it's a civil rights movement. I believe it's a choice, not something they are born with so therefore, I'm not discrimmiating. I'm morally opposed to it. I'm usually not vocal about it because it actually doesn't affect me much. It's just kind of like the story of the emporers new clothes where people were telling him how great he looked. I'd rather be the one to say, hey dude, you're naked. Just a matter of wanting to tell it like it is.

 

Kankrat- furthermore, my comment about staying in the closet, if it's a private, personal matter between 2 consenting adults, keep it that way. I'm not their judge and do not want to be. Let them live their lives, in private, who cares? Just don't be out there demanding that the whole world accepts it.

 

Wow.

 

The little lady is upstairs throwing her guts up right now. She's waiting on test results, but my guess is we already have our answer. We're all very careful so who knows where it originated. I feel like a million bucks and the kids seems fine, but I'm sure we've all been exposed. Should be a wild ride...

 

The little lady is upstairs throwing her guts up right now. She's waiting on test results, but my guess is we already have our answer. We're all very careful so who knows where it originated.

Congrats! But I thought you were done having kids. :sarcasm:

 

caught in the middle of an interview on NPR with some doctor from Dupage. If heard right ICUs in all regions of the satte are in 75% capacity range. Doctors and nurses are losing it from fatigue and illiness, they cant borrow them from wiscosnin or Iowa because they are in the same boat. Canada had a huge spike after their Thanksgiving on 10/12
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-ne ... 180976321/
Survey are saying that large numbers of Americans are going to pretty much ignore the CDC, AMA recommendations
Nurse on there practically in tears talking about watching people die then on her way home seeing bars full.
Buckle your safety belts.

 

http://www.dph.illinois.gov/covid19/hos ... tilization

 

JMDog, sorry to hear about your situation, remember chatting about it back in April or May? I hope your wife gets through it safely, and you and the kids avoid it or have mild symptoms too.

My wife caught it last month visiting our daughter who caught it from her boyfriend, all quarantined through mild symptoms and better now.

Let's hope effective vaccines get rolled out sooner rather than later, so we all really can get back to business as usual.

 

Wow.

x2. I'll add disturbing too.

 

The little lady is upstairs throwing her guts up right now. She's waiting on test results, but my guess is we already have our answer. We're all very careful so who knows where it originated. I feel like a million bucks and the kids seems fine, but I'm sure we've all been exposed. Should be a wild ride...

Sorry this is happening to you and your family. A terrible situation. Here's hoping for a smooth and speedy recovery for her.

 

@RonG If that's the diagnosis, I need to have a very serious talk with her or my urologist 8)

@grems Yes I do remember our conversation. Seems so long ago, doesn't it?

@ganz1960 Thanks man! Hoping for the best

 

As a kid, I didn't care that much for Gordon Lightfoot because I thought he sang weird.

Gordon Lightfoot is awesome. Have probably three of his albums on vinyl.

Ron - what exactly do you mean by "sang weird". The man had a great, unique voice. I say "had" because a hard life of drinking & misbehavior has had their effect.
Kank - Is that all you got? I have The Gordon Lightfoot Songbook on CD. Just about every song he ever recorded.

Years ago when they both still lived at home my kids both asked me to make them Gordon Lightfoot tapes. This was right after they asked me to make The Band tapes. That's when I knew they were turning out alright.

Won't comment about Rudi. He & the guy he works for are clearly pieces of human excrement.

 

I believe it's a choice, not something they are born with

Wait - you think someone would actually chooseto be gay? This flies in the face of logic & human character. Given all the shit that's generally flung in their direction I seriously doubt anyone would choose that lifestyle.

I've known plenty of gays over the years. I should stop & say that when I was a kid I was hugely homophobic. When I met my wife I got to know one of her cousins. He was one of the funniest, gentlest, most caring people I've ever known. Unfortunately he was of a generation and from a family that didn't accept queerness. He never came out (except to a few close friends & relatives) & I suspect it really saddened him. If it was a choice he could have chosen to chase women. I won't go on.

 

The little lady is upstairs throwing her guts up right now. She's waiting on test results, but my guess is we already have our answer. We're all very careful so who knows where it originated. I feel like a million bucks and the kids seems fine, but I'm sure we've all been exposed. Should be a wild ride...

So sorry to hear this dog. Hope everything turns out OK.

I feel like this damned thing is stalking me...

 

As a kid, I didn't care that much for Gordon Lightfoot because I thought he sang weird.

Gordon Lightfoot is awesome. Have probably three of his albums on vinyl.

Ron - what exactly do you mean by "sang weird". The man had a great, unique voice. I say "had" because a hard life of drinking & misbehavior has had their effect.
Kank - Is that all you got? I have The Gordon Lightfoot Songbook on CD. Just about every song he ever recorded.

Years ago when they both still lived at home my kids both asked me to make them Gordon Lightfoot tapes. This was right after they asked me to make The Band tapes. That's when I knew they were turning out alright.

Won't comment about Rudi. He & the guy he works for are clearly pieces of human excrement.

That's an insult to human excrement.

Actually I looked and I only have Sundown and it's on vinyl, it playing right now. Really great album. But I am somewhat familiar with his music. i liked him even when I was a kid. Especielly the "The Wreck.." What a great song.
As much as I hate to admit it, I started streaming music on Apple Music and that's what I listen to a lot in the car and at work. My taste in music is all over the map a lot of jazz, blues, classic rock, prog rock so if I get a hankerin' to hear Coltrane or Howlin' Wolf it's always there.
Basically I can listen to any album anytime I want. Don't think it sounds as good though as the record or probably the cd.
I started buyin vinyl again trying to keep taht under control. As you get old you are supposed to get rid of stuff not accumalte more.

 

I believe it's a choice, not something they are born with

Wait - you think someone would actually chooseto be gay? This flies in the face of logic & human character. Given all the shit that's generally flung in their direction I seriously doubt anyone would choose that lifestyle.

I've known plenty of gays over the years. I should stop & say that when I was a kid I was hugely homophobic. When I met my wife I got to know one of her cousins. He was one of the funniest, gentlest, most caring people I've ever known. Unfortunately he was of a generation and from a family that didn't accept queerness. He never came out (except to a few close friends & relatives) & I suspect it really saddened him. If it was a choice he could have chosen to chase women. I won't go on.

Rambler: I totally agree with you.

Bobberwatcher: When did you choose to be heterosexual? Somewhere along the way, I missed having a choice. Was that the week I missed school in the 3rd grade with the chicken pox? I knew I missed something important that week.

Seriously…could you really choose to be gay? I know I couldn't.

 

I don't like to keep using this forum for this purpose but it bugs me not to answer when you challenge my point of view. You have your opinions, I have mine and since you asked, here's mine- nature follows laws. Rivers flow to the sea, not visa versa, the sun rises in the east, sets in the west, the seasons change etc- but humans have free will. Most gay people probably believe they were born that way, maybe not realizing it was a choice. Others try to use it as a justification, especially if they're not comfortable with it within themselves. There are exceptions. For example, siamese twins. If that can happen, I would imagine that somewhere along in fetal development, things could happen to cause sexual confusion- MEDICALLY. But probably extremely rare. Bruce Jenner, choice or more female traits from birth? I don't know but transgender is a little different. If being gay is something present at birth, what about bi sexuals? People in the entertainment industry change their sexual preferences faster than you can change the channel. It helps their image, makes them appear "edgy". Gay is the fasionable way to push the limits. Anyhow, that's the way I see it. Take it or leave it.

 

**** by birth. **** by choice, I'll never know, nor care. But Freddie Mercury was completely awesome as a composer/singer/front man regardless of his private life. Gordon Lightfoot had nothing to do with any of that lifestyle, yet just like Kenny Rogers, still wrecked all his marriages with his sexual urges towards many women. Born with a tendency towards something, carrying it out is still ultimately a choice. Some are born with a desire to repeatedly murder. Others with an addictive desire to drink, coke or gamble themselves to death. Put my father in the gamble himself to death group. Choosing to surrender to every urge is not an uncontrollable inevitability or excuse to do anything you wish. Not far off, pedophilia will be soon be excusable because a desire to commit it was present. Mark my words on it.

Bobberwatcher: Kudos on your bravery and resistance to be rolled over by the mob, even the WCF gay mob. You are entitled to your beliefs just the same as anyone else here is.

 

RonG- thank you

 

Time to cancel bobberwatcher!!!!!! Grrrrrr.......

Just kidding. I 100% disagree with your opinion, but it is just that, an opinion. Keep on rocking in the free world.

 

FishinMatt- Thank you

 

The common thread I found with people who are concerned with the morality of other people is their own closets are so full of baggage they can't even get in them anymore. That's why you worry about other people.
I went to catholic school and had to attend mass 6 days a week.
That means in 8 years I had to listen to this POS sermon about 2500 times.

There is more dirt on him on line.

 

**** by birth. **** by choice, I'll never know, nor care. But Freddie Mercury was completely awesome as a composer/singer/front man regardless of his private life. Gordon Lightfoot had nothing to do with any of that lifestyle, yet just like Kenny Rogers, still wrecked all his marriages with his sexual urges towards many women. Born with a tendency towards something, carrying it out is still ultimately a choice. Some are born with a desire to repeatedly murder. Others with an addictive desire to drink, coke or gamble themselves to death. Put my father in the gamble himself to death group. Total loser! Choosing to surrender to every urge is not an uncontrollable inevitability or excuse to do anything you wish. Not far off, pedophilia will be soon be excusable because a desire to commit it was present. Mark my words on it.

Bobberwatcher: Kudos on your bravery and resistance to be rolled over by the mob, even the WCF gay mob. You are entitled to your beliefs just the same as anyone else here is.

That is stupid. The differences in everything you talk about,: infidelity, alcoholism, drug abuse, obbsesive gambling, murder, pedophilia gabling hurt the individual and other people. Homosexuality does not.the is no known science to indicate that it does. Incredible that you would put murder and pedophilia in the same catogory as being gay. Wow, you are truly a piece of work.