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smallies showing up on the des plains

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hey guys today i got out to fish when the clouds broke for an hour and while fishing a man landed about a 2 pound smallie in a pond along the dpr it was cool to see last year i caught a small one on the river but i wasnt sure if theyd realy reproduce and take off but a talked to an officer and he said he sees a lot of guys catch them with a fly in shallow rushing water
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Smallies aren't for the dpr to much snakes and pollution.
thats what im saying the river is getting cleaner want to know why my dad saw a river otter they havent seen those on the des plains in like 20 years my dad looked them up and it said they will not thrive in polluted water and like cleaner river system
I'll believe that when I see that 17 pound walleye picture.
my dad saw a river otter
I love your posts but come on I can't take it anymore. :roll:
How about that 25-inch Largemouth Bass......

On a serious note:

Smallies are in there.

Stocked in multiple locations downstream of Hoffman Dam. Most have died though.
More are found near the mouth of IL and Kankakee Rivers.

"Snakes" have nothing to do with their lack of numbers. Blame it on the water quality and lack of habitat.
thats the only thing i was thinking about that river doesnt support thier habitat smallies typically like rocky areas i see lots of these types of areas on the dupage but that pond does have the support for smallies
JB said:
my dad saw a river otter
I love your posts but come on I can't take it anymore. :roll:
okay buddy if im making it up then go on google and look up river otters for yourself i wouldnt know this stuff if my dad hadnt seen it
Chill my friend.

I know what river otters are so no need to google. I grew up on the DPR and have seen some amazing things transpire over the years. I am thoroughly impressed by the increase in species alone that call it home. I look forward to future inclinations that the river is coming back from the dead. I know that beavers, muskrats, etc. call it home and have for years. To claim river otters exist at this point in our neck of the woods is stretching it. From what I recall, no research done, I've heard that there are limited stretches of the Mississippi that hold river otters but to think they live this far upstream in what probably is one of the most polluted rivers in the Chicagoland area is incredible. I don't mean to question your dad and if he says he saw a river otter, so be it. All I gotta say is that would be one lonely river otter!
I remember reading about this couple years back.

Otters Spotted On River's South Branch Downtown Forest Preserve Plans To Track ThemCHICAGO (STNG) ―

American River otters were spotted recently on the Chicago River's South Branch near Union Station.
Chicago Sun-Times

Thousands of commuters were walking past Union Station on the day that Chris Anchor happened to see a dream made flesh.

Furry otter flesh, to be exact.

Anchor glanced at the Chicago River and noticed something strange on the bank - a cone-shaped pile, made up of fish scales and a carp head.

The pile of food scraps suggested a specific feeding animal. The North American river otter leaves its garbage in neat cone-shaped piles. "I thought, I can't believe what I'm seeing," said Anchor, chief biologist for the Cook County Forest Preserve District.

He drew closer to investigate, peering beneath a bridge. "Right next to [the food scraps] was an otter that was preening. People were walking by," he said, unaware of the silky, sinewy creature just yards away on that day, about two years ago.

The otter has made a comeback, Anchor said. "Almost all the watersheds in Cook County have otters. They're everywhere. They're kind of like the coyotes . . . there's definitely otters downtown."

Anchor's department has confirmed eight spots with otters on county waterways. Often, the animals live in abandoned beaver lodges.

The Forest Preserve District plans to trap them and implant transmitters with the help of Brookfield Zoo, Anchor said. The devices will help track range, habits and lifespan. The animals will be checked for parasites, and blood and tissue samples will be taken for genetic studies.

Otters disappeared from the area a century or so back as population and development surged.

Anchor isn't sure where they're now coming from. They may have migrated from Wisconsin along the Fox and Des Plaines rivers, or traveled up north from the Kankakee River. They also might be traced to Louisiana. Otters caught by trappers in Louisiana were re-introduced in Illinois waterways by state officials 10 to 15 years ago, Anchor said. The closest release to Chicago was north of Danville, he said.

Many area waterways have seen a resurgence in fish populations, providing otters a steady food supply. "We have tons and tons of carp available," Anchor said.
For the most part, the animals are eating fish, "but we have documented them taking roadkill . . . they're behaving opportunistically."
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Otters are often reclusive as well. We have been going to the same resort up in Central WI for over 30 years and had never seen an otter. One evening several years ago as we were coming in from an evening of fishing there were 2 laying on the swim raft. We asked the owners if they had even seen them before and they had not. This was about 10 years ago and we have not seen them since. Sometimes we never believe things until we see it for ourselves.
I always assume its a beaver if its not a muskrat, but now I will be looking closer.
Be careful what you wish for with the river otters...A good population of them will eat a ton of fish. I remember reading something a few years back where they were being blamed for decreased smallmouth populations on certain streams in PA. Of course we probably have a long way to go before we start worrying about them harming fish populations around here.
the otters like to eat sluggish fish like carp or catfish because there easier to catch and me and my dad know the difference beetween a beaver and an otter the otter actually came right up to him when he was wading then it dove back underwater ive seen tons of beavers though i hate beavers they ruined one of my favorite ponds they broke down the dam and the pond drained and all the fish pretty much died
DPRFisherman said:
the otters like to eat sluggish fish like carp or catfish because there easier to catch
Believe it or not, Bass and sunfish are considered slower swimming fish...this was taken from a scientific study on the diet of river otters:

Ryder (1955) stated that river otters feed
predominantly on prey in proportion to their abundance but in inverse proportion to their
swimming ability. Therefore, slow swimming fishes are preyed upon more often than
game fishes when both are equally abundant (Serfass et al. 1990; Toweill and Tabor
1982). Slow-moving fishes include suckers (Catostomidae); sunfishes and bass
(Centrarchids); and daces, carp and shiners (Cyprnidae) (Route and Peterson 1988).
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