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Way back in the way back 1/11/15

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#1 ·
Fished Mazonia N. Unit with BFA and a buddy of mine on Sunday from 7am to 11am. Our plan was to hike/hoof/march to some of the smaller pits off the beaten path. By taking a peek at Google Earth images and using a GPS to guide the way we embarked on a trip that would cover almost 2 miles of walking over ice and up/down the berms & hills of Mazonia's stip pits. Weather was great, upper 20's, overcast, barometer dropping, and virtually calm winds.

Our first spot had already been claimed by a group of fisherman and since the pit was relatively small we decided to leave them to it so we didn't feel like we were crowding them. There is plenty of ice out there to fish and nobody should feel like they have to share the same tiny chunk of ice when there are acres upon acres of untouched ice just waiting to be found out there.

Our second spot was quite a hike from there, up and over a huge berm and down a steep ravine. This pit was set really low inside this valley, and upon first inspection it looked to have a few existing holes drilled in the ice that had iced over. Deer and rabbit trails had lead us to the crest of this valley but from there on another 30 yards or so we had to blaze our own trail through 10' tall prairie grass, various saplings, and a dense forest of tall thick reed grass that lines the perimeters of nearly all of Mazonia's waters.

Once to the ice we quickly shed layers of clothing to cool off as the hike in had left us huffin' and puffin' and working up a sweat.

After drilling the first hole it was noted that ice depth was a consistent 3 to 4", which in my book, is borderline "safe ice". Safety ice picks were around everyone's neck and after scouting with the auger it was agreed by all that since the consistency around the pit was good and the ice was solid clear ice for 3" to 4", we would stay.

Fishing was as easy-pickings as I have ever had. Didn't really matter what you dropped down, in depths from 4 feet to 16 feet the fish were in a biting mood and we quickly had 30+ gills around 8" after some minimal sorting. It was really impressive that most of the gills we caught were keeper size. Very few of the fish from this pit were under 8".

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After counting out our predetermined self-imposed limit we packed up and started heading to another pit to find some crappies or possibly some trophy sized gills since we were way ahead of schedule.

Next stop had us on another 1 to 1.5 acre pit that was absolutely virgin ice, not a single hole had been drilled on this ice this season. At first we thought it would be too shallow to hold many fish, the first holes drilled only showed 3 to 4 foot water depths under 4 to 6 inches of ice. However, with the aid of my cordless drill powered auger, we popped another dozen holes and found a nice depression that was absolutely stacked with fish.

I kneeled down at the hot hole and pulled out 30 assorted gills & bass in 30 minutes. The flasher was lit up like a christmas tree and every drop of the jig had a mark flying up from the school to hammer it on the drop. If I could have one day on the ice every year for the rest of my life I would hope it to be a day like this.

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This pit had quantity but the quality was not as great. For every 10 fish we caught only 1 would be consider a keeper near or at 8". Most of of the gills we caught were in the 6 to 7" class, and those pesky 10" runty bass were plentiful.

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After an hour here we had our fill of excitement for the day so we got back out on the trail and hiked that final mile to our vehicles.

All in all I would say it was one of my top 5 days out on the ice. Quantity, quality, good company, and great weather. This was an excellent way to work up a sweat and get the heart rate up, the exercise was a welcome and needed break from my winter hibernation.

If anyone is interested in getting some time in on the ice out there I would urge you to get off the beaten path and seek out the smaller less pressured waters. It's a lot of fun exploring back there, the rewards are multi-faceted and worth the effort.
 
#7 ·
Nice report Ed. I know those pits well from tube fishing. Kudos for the self imposed limit. By limiting and selectively harvesting from different pits, they all will have good fishing from years to come. Despite what some know it alls and whiners want to post, selective harvest does work, even on public waters. Great job of harvesting natures bounty.
 
#13 ·
Selective harvest entails knowing the fish composition of a particular body and removing certain fish to improve the overall health. This is more a case of judicial harvest. Nice job catching and being judicial with what you keep! Nice job beating the Mazonia skunk too!

I rarely do any formal exercise so I try to incorporate it into my fishing by walking, crawling thru brush, biking, kayaking and hauling my ice gear all over the place like a mule. Nice job on working up a sweat.

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Is it a good idea to ice fish if you are really that horny?
 
#15 ·
RonG said:
Selective harvest entails knowing the fish composition of a particular body and removing certain fish to improve the overall health. This is more a case of judicial harvest.
Selective harvest is exactly what was practiced. Harvesting selectively to take advantage of a renewable resource in a manner which does not harm the resource or to improve its quality. Limiting the harvest to fewer than the law allows, selectively releasing the largest fish, and not harvesting everything from one place all the time is exactly selective harvest. But then again if I said white was white and black was black, I'm sure you would have some way of disagreeing. Bashing every person who chooses to harvest a fish or two, calling them hillbillies and making a determination whether they know anything about the fishery has nothing to do with selective harvest either. Returning every small crappie to a fishery that is already overrun with small fish and complaining about someone keep a legal fish or two is just as bad as the person who is taking too many bass from a fishery. But I'm sure, for some, indiscriminately bashing someone and calling them names does make some people feel like they are somehow a better.
 
#17 ·
:crazy: said:
Bashing every person who chooses to harvest a fish or two, calling them hillbillies and making a determination whether they know anything about the fishery has nothing to do with selective harvest either. Returning every small crappie to a fishery that is already overrun with small fish and complaining about someone keep a legal fish or two is just as bad as the person who is taking too many bass from a fishery.
No one bashed anyone here for keeping any fish. It was a nice haul and I'm sure they tasted good with some quality homebrew. Stop lying already! You did this same garbage on the other site running around all the time saying I was bashing folks for using live bait when that wasn't true either. :crazy: In all these years I still haven't figured out why this continues. :crazy:, i guess.

I am a keeper and eater of fish when I feel like it and I use live bait. Every one knows that. What do you think people think of you always trying to convince them of the opposite?
 
#19 ·
RonG said:
In all these years I still haven't figured out why this continues. , i guess.
It continues because YOU continue it!!!!

by FishinMatt » Oct Tue 14, 2014 5:53 pm
Agreed. RonG, please stay out of LY posts. You are a great fishermen and seem like a great guy, but in just the past week it has been you vs. Muskie7, Bossman, and now LY. LY has made it clear he wants you to stay out of his posts, but you keep coming back with passive aggressive stuff and then play innocent when you get the desired response. Come on.....
RonG said:
No one bashed anyone here for keeping any fish.
RonG said:
Well, I started on a pond that was doing quite well for me a week ago. Arrived to find a hillbilly convention already in progress on the ice.
RonG said:
On the way out I noticed the goofs were keeping their tip up bass for some meals. Less bass for me to catch in the summer
RonG said:
Some would call it selective harvest, I call it selective crimes against the community.
RonG said:
You did this same garbage on the other site running around all the time saying I was bashing folks
RonG said:
I'm starting to worry the bucketheads cleaned them out. Or maybe the hillbillies? Worse yet, word on the street is that the hillbillies now have discovered buckets. :shock: Dummies don't realize that when you select to harvest all the big fish in a small pond soon there are no big fish. :thumbdown:
Not Bashing anyone? This has nothing to do about "Selective Harvest" and is everything about bashing.

We all know where the lies and garbage are being started. You can quit and anytime but I refuse to let your hidden attacks go unremarked.
 
#20 ·
Not trying to start a debate on this again, but I partially agree. I think that works in Canada due to less pressure, so while only smaller fish are being taken, there are still plenty of smaller fish surviving, and the larger fish all get left to allow a true trophy fishery. With lakes around cities like Chicago, all the pressure could potentially result in all smaller fish being taken. While this would result in only the larger trophy fish being left for a while, once those disappear (due to dying naturally, harsh winter, illegal harvest, accidental death due to handling/catching, etc), there would be nothing left to rebuild.

I do, however, like the idea of allowing the keeping of fish in some slot. This ensures that the young fish have a chance to grow to a size where they might be able to continue to reproduce and would ensure that there is always a "next generation" of fish to fill the slot of whatever was taken/lost. With the level of pressure lakes around here receive, you still might end up losing that trophy class after a while if everything that reaches the slot is removed, but at least the fishery would still be going.

Just my two cents. Don't want to start a big argument about it, as I am sure there are better ways to manage each body of water and they are all unique and can be managed for different purposes. But winter has been getting to me and I felt the need to post on something fishing related.

~Wadlo
 
#22 ·
Yes, I will complain and continue to complain about people cleaning out the places I fish. Everyone else here despises and bemoans the bucketheads. Why can't I? I've had way too many of my nice spots wrecked by these stupid and greedy anglers. In a pond loaded with dink bluegills, I complained about the hillbillies removing the bass with their illegal # of tip ups. There are no legal fish to take in this pond. It's private. By extension, the fish are private property. Neither I or they have permission to take the fish. It's no different than walking onto the property owner's yard and stealing his dog or cat because you want to bring it home.

Most of the forest preserves are depleted messes and not even worth bothering with. Selective harvest will not work in an urban, heavily fished location. 400 guys fishing a small lake, each with zero knowledge of the lake's fish composition and ratios, each selecting what they keep or release, all with no knowledge of what the other 399 guys are doing. Oh ya, that's really going to work out nice. :roll:

If someone like Special Ed here wants to take and eat some legal fish, that's fine with me and I do it too, just not as much as I used to.

:crazy: said:
Bashing every person who chooses to harvest a fish or two
But this lying about me has to stop.

Ok, back to topic.

Q: Did you hear about the hillbilly that passed away and left his entire estate in trust for his widow?
A: She can't touch it till she turns fourteen.
 
#25 ·
BrookfieldAngler said:
erves are depleted messes and not even worth bothering with. Selective harvest will not work in an urban, heavily fished location. 400 guys fishing a small lake, each with zero knowledge of the lake's fish composition and ratios, each selecting what they keep or release, all with no knowledge of what the other 399 guys are doing. Oh ya, that's really g
Dont go stealing my terrible music signature :lol:
 
#26 ·
Our first ice fishing vid of the season! Nice.

bassman29 said:
nice vid bf....not sure if the music makes me want to have a hoot nanny or a hoe down....im going with hoot nanny for now but leaving the possibility open for it to turn into a hoe down.
Definitely hoot nanny. A good hoedown should sound like this:


Long live Keith Emerson! Rock's greatest keyboard player.