The bait store in South Elgin, Cool Waters, will be closing there doors for good Sunday evening. It's a shame to have to see him go. Don's got everything reduced to blow out. Plenty of good deals on jigs, terminal tackle, some plastics and even some nuts.
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The bait store in South Elgin, Cool Waters, will be closing there doors for good Sunday evening. It's a shame to have to see him go. Don's got everything reduced to blow out. Plenty of good deals on jigs, terminal tackle, some plastics and even some nuts.
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I had a bait/tackle shop when I had my canoe biz in Montgomery. Next to impossible to compete with the big box stores. You can't live off bait sales and guys buy cheap at the big stores or online for everything else. All the shops I used to go to 10 years ago are gone. From Elgin through Oswego, gone.
It's a shame to see them go. That is where you get the best river info.
It's a shame to see them go. That is where you get the best river info.
I`m trying now to setup a online business selling fishing tackle and accessories. Most of the prices I get from dealers are good enough to beat the big stores or at least are on the same price. Of course may be you local store is selling more expensive but if you talk to the owner I`m definitely sure they will be able to mach the or beat the Cabelas, BassPro or Walmart prices on almost everything. So just talk with them tell them what you need and even if they don`t have it in stock they will order it for. Even selling with little profit or no profit is much better of not selling anything - owners should know about this or they deserve to quit the businessKen G said:
For example Power Pro fishing line test 5-50 lb - MSRP - $13-$15 Cabelas on sale price now - $12 BassPro - $12.49. Dealers price around $10 depends how big is the local store. Just tell the owner you can buy it for less there and you can get it on the same price right away. It sound like old time business but the economic situation now need different way of making business so just tell the guy what you need and how much you can spend for it and see how interested is he to earn your business. I started like this and it works well for both sides.
Support the small business it is the backbone of the economy and catch and release :!: :!: :!:
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Trier said:
Trier,
Your post baffles me, maybe can you order product through the tackle distributors for a reasonable price but only those
items that are produced by smaller manufacturers. The big boys don't play by the same rules as everyone else. I met Shimano's
V.P. for North American sales and I know for a fact that they sell directly to Cabela's and B.P. Shops for less than they sell to
national distributors! You do not stand a snowballs chance in Hell of beating the national big-box stores on price, the only reason
they are quoting a higher price is because enough people are willing to pay it. If Cabela's and B.P. Shops want to knuckle you down
they will. Now let me ask you... Are you willing to work without profit? I am not! Actually I'm tired of being stripped down to my
underwear everytime I try to get some work, if I can't make money then why bother?
What did you mean they deserve to go out of business (refering to the small tackle shops)? So let make sure I understand you,
if the tackle shop owners are not willing to let you squeeze their balls until they screem uncle they DESERVE
to go out of business?!!! Please tell me you were making a bad joke. Trust me when I tell you that I'm aware
of the economic tribulations facing us all. Rather than trying to rape everyone with a dollar sign I choose to show some compassion.
If the waitress who served me should get five dollars I give her seven, the pizza driver gets ten. If I can't afford it then I need to get off of my
fat ass and get my food myself! Remind me never to do business with you so that I don't end up with your foot on my neck!
I am really interested in hearing how you think that you are supporting small business with that pompous attitude?
Sorry,
I messed up my post
Even selling with little profit or no profit is much better of not selling anything - owners should know about this
or they deserve to quit the business - I meant for some specific orders not everything in the store. Shimano is offering lower prices to Cabela's and other big stores but also they have a lot more expenses than small store owner. So if Shimano sells 1 product for $50 to Cabelas and for $60 to national distributors and Cabelas is offering this product for $70 I don`t see a problem for the small store to sell it for $70 even if the profit is smaller. I even prefer to sell it for $65 to my customer if I`m able to /usually is very hard to get customer in the store so with offering them something for less dosn`t mean that they leave the store only with this product but here is coming the ability of the store owner to sell more and more to the customer/. When the big stores are going on sale I give up because nobody can beat them but rest of the time they have a reasonable prices.
Ok I don`t want to squeeze any balls but but who will buy more expensive product in your store when he can buy it for less somewhere else?
The waitress use to make a $7 from you and now because she deserved $7 and you have $5 she makes $0 the pizza driver gets $0 but both of them have to pay rent, gas,phone etc. And now they are without income going on the street. Who's the bad guy now? Pizza owner is OK you will buy and pick up the pizza but the guy in the middle is going out of the business and is trying to cut all expenses then hi stops to use your services because you deserve more and he can`t afford it, then you are going out of the business after all you are starting to make pizza from scratch and the pizza owner is closing the store because he DESERVE $5 net profit per pizza and now is making only $2. This is what is happening now. In the last couple of years the average family income is going down but taxes are rising the people are having less free money so they are not buying everything. You can check for your self when you go to WalMart and check the shelves. They are offering less products than before in every department. Even the pizza's are all the time on specials prices with different discounts.
I don`t want to argue with anybody but how to spend $10 when I have only $8. And because I want the best for my money I will give them to the first guy who offer me the best for them I don`t care if this is the local store owner, Cabela`s B.P. Shops or online store owner. The retail business is not only about the price is about the relationship between seller and customer and the best service you can get is from someone who is really interested in selling not the person who works for $8 per hour part time.
I`m not sure if everything is easy for reading and understanding I`m not really good in posting like some people here but I hope nobody here will be hurt because my poor writing technique
I messed up my post
Even selling with little profit or no profit is much better of not selling anything - owners should know about this
or they deserve to quit the business - I meant for some specific orders not everything in the store. Shimano is offering lower prices to Cabela's and other big stores but also they have a lot more expenses than small store owner. So if Shimano sells 1 product for $50 to Cabelas and for $60 to national distributors and Cabelas is offering this product for $70 I don`t see a problem for the small store to sell it for $70 even if the profit is smaller. I even prefer to sell it for $65 to my customer if I`m able to /usually is very hard to get customer in the store so with offering them something for less dosn`t mean that they leave the store only with this product but here is coming the ability of the store owner to sell more and more to the customer/. When the big stores are going on sale I give up because nobody can beat them but rest of the time they have a reasonable prices.
Ok I don`t want to squeeze any balls but but who will buy more expensive product in your store when he can buy it for less somewhere else?
In tough economic the key to survive sometimes is the cash flow. You may not want to work for free but you will prefer to make something than nothing. Unless you have enough money in the bank or under the bed to pay all bills :wink: .
The waitress use to make a $7 from you and now because she deserved $7 and you have $5 she makes $0 the pizza driver gets $0 but both of them have to pay rent, gas,phone etc. And now they are without income going on the street. Who's the bad guy now? Pizza owner is OK you will buy and pick up the pizza but the guy in the middle is going out of the business and is trying to cut all expenses then hi stops to use your services because you deserve more and he can`t afford it, then you are going out of the business after all you are starting to make pizza from scratch and the pizza owner is closing the store because he DESERVE $5 net profit per pizza and now is making only $2. This is what is happening now. In the last couple of years the average family income is going down but taxes are rising the people are having less free money so they are not buying everything. You can check for your self when you go to WalMart and check the shelves. They are offering less products than before in every department. Even the pizza's are all the time on specials prices with different discounts.
I don`t want to argue with anybody but how to spend $10 when I have only $8. And because I want the best for my money I will give them to the first guy who offer me the best for them I don`t care if this is the local store owner, Cabela`s B.P. Shops or online store owner. The retail business is not only about the price is about the relationship between seller and customer and the best service you can get is from someone who is really interested in selling not the person who works for $8 per hour part time.
I wanna see the guy in Walmart or Cabela's that will provide this info now.Hoffman said:
I`m not sure if everything is easy for reading and understanding I`m not really good in posting like some people here but I hope nobody here will be hurt because my poor writing technique
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Trier,
You clearly write with an accent, where are you from? I apologize if I misunderstood you and should probably have
held back my rant somewhat but I will still have to respectfully disagree with you on some points. There are no easy
answers in this miserable economic situation. I just want to say this: price is not everything, a knowledgeable sales person with good advice
is carries its own value. We have price shoped this country into the ground, what the heck was everybody thinking when
they were busy buying $15.00 blenders and $20.00 power tools at Wal-Mart? I'm pretty sure some guy on the other side
of the World appreciates it very much.
You clearly write with an accent, where are you from? I apologize if I misunderstood you and should probably have
held back my rant somewhat but I will still have to respectfully disagree with you on some points. There are no easy
answers in this miserable economic situation. I just want to say this: price is not everything, a knowledgeable sales person with good advice
is carries its own value. We have price shoped this country into the ground, what the heck was everybody thinking when
they were busy buying $15.00 blenders and $20.00 power tools at Wal-Mart? I'm pretty sure some guy on the other side
of the World appreciates it very much.
I`m from small country at the other side of the World At least we are have the same opinion for one thing:
AndOsprey said:
Trier said:
You know what is funny - we both agreed that it`s not about the price only but everyone is saying how Big stores are taking the business so maybe they are really good not only in the price competition. As you said there are no easy answer so we need to work hard if we want to find them.
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